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On 05/11/12 17:27, Malcolm Dinsmore wrote: > I don't really get why the vocal bash Unity. I suspect I am about to > find out why no-one raises their head above the parapet to say they > like unity but here goes: Fair enough, if you like it then more power to you - I hope nobody is going to give you an earful just because you happen to like Unity. Some bits are potentially pretty cool after all - personally, I hate the Apple-style global menus with a vengeance, but for less skilled users who don't have every keyboard shortcut for a sprawling program like Gimp burnt into their muscle memory it's a nice touch to start typing "unsharp mask" and have the lens dynamically filter the available options for you. I can see that being really useful for kids, new converts and casual users (and the terminally lazy, such as myself) struggling with endless nested menus and cryptically labelled options. A lot of the game-ending stupidity has been either fixed or removed, fallback 2D mode now uses llvm soft-rendering instead of just instantly breaking... it has come along a fair way. And anything you don't like (the hateful Amazon bullshit is obviously the top of the list) can be trivially removed or now there is at least a semblance of configuration options available, modified to taste. In fact, if anything, Gnome3 - which I prefer - suffers from most of these problems itself, and a whole bunch of other failures specific to itself. I actually use Unity every day - several customers/friends I support are using it, some of my maintenance/testing VMs run it so I'm not hating just for the sake of it. I do think you might be putting the cart before the horse as well, so to speak. It's not that you've just got a "vocal" minority undeservedly slandering a brave new Desktop Environment. Whether you look at the uninformed masses, the drivelling hordes of (secretly windows using) slashdotters, experienced sysadmins or even Linus himself, unquestionably the vast majority opinion has consistently been that it sucks. From day one of release to the greatly improved modern Unity, it seems that something like 95% of users hate it - there's a reason why Ubuntu slipped from it's long held and proud number 1 position on distrowatch exactly when the first Unity-default version was released. But hey, I'm not trying to convince you or anything - if it works for you, fantastic. I'll keep an eye on it and keep using it, maybe in two years it'll be so awesome that every distro ships with it by default, including windows 9 and OpenVMS. And for what it's worth, as much as I hate Unity, I'd still rather use it than KDE. I really can't even tell you how much I hate KDE (although I loved kio-slaves). Regards -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq