Re: [LUG] It's CentOS, Jim, but not as we know it...

[comrade meowski <mr.meowski@xxxxxxxx>]

On 11/12/2020 11:00, Simon Avery wrote:
> Redhat has generally been a good servant to the linux world, but now... 
> It's a faithful old dog that's just taken a big crap on your best rug. 
> Not only that, it's making it clear that that's it's crapping place now, 
> and there's nothing you can do about it, nor can the people who made and 
> clean the rug. So screw you.

Haha and that was after you said I was being unnecessarily harsh!

Unfortunately I think there's just too much stuff to go over here, 
especially blow by blow on a mailing list - we'll be here forever. 
Definitely needs a lengthy pub conversation so we can divert into 
divergent Linux philosophies (I think you're right, we definitely 
approach this differently) and whether or not RedHat are the bad guys or 
not.

So what do we agree on?

Hmm, definitely more work for both of us no matter how we look at it. So 
thanks for that RedHat/IBM management. In the short term I guess we keep 
a sharp eye on Rocky Linux and hope it turns out to be exactly what we 
all want/need for better or for worse: a drop in CentOS replacement. I'm 
less convinced than you that this is a good idea - it's already failed 
once - BUT I remain as ever entirely possible to convince. Perhaps Rocky 
Linux will evolve rapidly to become better than CentOS was and it'll 
turn out to be a positive development. Actually, I think that's not 
unlikely in the mid to long term (we probably also have different 
definitions of that I suspect - I think I operate on a vastly compressed 
timeframe to you).

Oh can we also agree that we'll stop even mentioning Oracle Linux? After 
getting burned by RedHat/IBM corporate decisions jumping ship to Oracle 
would be enough for our friends to think we'd developed battered wife 
syndrome and needed an intervention.

Let's see what happens for now then - you're definitely more invested 
for want of a better term in CentOS than me. It's just another 
disposable tool in my collection from my perspective, and not one I 
particularly had any love for in the first place so I'll discard it 
without a second thought and replace it with whatever $JOBNEEDS. Despite 
what you might think I promise I'm not dancing on CentOS' grave or 
anything, it's never done me any harm other than mildly annoy me to be 
fair!

Keep us posted on what your company ends up going with. I can steal your 
ideas then :]

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