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On 10/12/2020 19:35, Simon Avery wrote:
But the current issues are not to do with Centos being underfunded
You make good points but I think this one is wrong on the face of it - this current situation is entirely down to the mass consumers of CentOS (not the active community or devs; the freeloaders) not supporting their miraculous freebie whatsover. RedHat wouldn't have been able to reverse takeover the CentOS project in the first place if it had been healthy, well funded and vibrant - they would have/could have refused and stayed independent. CentOS was unfortunately all about entitled businesses taking what they needed without nourishing the source of their free enterprise OS rebuild though, so they all got what they deserved in the end.
I don't personally have any issues with the whole CentOS thing, even organizationally - I certainly don't "hate" anything that was involved, including the OS itself (that wouldn't make sense). However I don't rate CentOS highly as a distro on a purely technical level, even for what it's designed to be used for. People always mistook "painfully archaic" for "stable" and it was barely fit for purpose without ElRepo, RPMFusion and rebuilding half the stuff yourself.
I didn't really make a very coherent job of explaining how CentOS will shortly disappear either entirely now you mention it - to clarify, it won't go anywhere as you say for 1 year (C8) and another 4 years (C7) in most cases. What I should have said is that soon it will be replaced entirely - in name only - by whatever Rocky OS eventually becomes. So in spirit it will be the same old RHEL community rebuild. CentOS is dead, long live CentOS I guess. It is too valuable a resource for too many people to be allowed to die but I predict the same thing will probably happen again years down the line as freeloaders continue freeloading off a tiny hardcore community's efforts and fail to learn from previous mistakes.
And legacy Linux is going away now, the future is already here. Just look how the hyperscalers tech is filtering down and replacing the amateur-hour clumsy handbuilt crap we've grown up with. All young techies live and breathe docker now. Systemd, cgroups, it's already happened: even the CentOS you're currently using is containerized. It's VMs and containerization all the way down now - and VMs are dying too. We partition at the hardware level now, and containerize the rest of the stack. And build/deploy automatically to Kubernetes with a single click.
I'm not saying I universally love the crazy modern IT battlefield: it's chaotic and confusing and creates just as many new problems as it fixes. But new stuff is always more exciting and powerful than old stuff and that's fun.
Remember the more churn and confusion there is in the IT industry the more likely we are to still have jobs in the future! So there is a silver lining to this cloud, even if it's currently raining turds ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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