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On this date - Wed, Aug 05, 2020 at 12:52:35PM +0100, Julian Hall wrote: > On 05/08/2020 11:22, Eion MacDonald wrote: > > On 04/08/2020 22:42, Julian Hall wrote: > > > On 04/08/2020 12:48, Brad Rogers wrote: > > > > On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 23:01:14 +0100 > > > > Julian Hall <linux@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello Julian, > > > > > > > > > No, Linux itself. I have to keep removing them before backups. > > > > Either you're not explaining yourself well, or I'm simply not > > > > understanding what you mean; The term 'linux', used like that, is > > > > simply too vague to have any meaning. > > > The OS (whichever flavour) as opposed to an application. > > > > > > Julian > > > > > Ah! An "oldies problem" > > Many of my old pupils think Microsoft Word is "Windows". > > > > Part of teaching is to introduce four terms to them. > > > > "Windows OS" or "Windows Operating System" is the Engine of the computer. > > > > "MS Word is a "Application" that is used, like a 'Markable paper road > > map", you use and change or use and save. Likewise LibreOffice Writer or > > "email sub system" > > > > "Linux OS" or "Linux Distribution" is just another engine for the car. > > > > The "Computer" is the car parts or body less engine, to be repaired if > > faulty. > > > > So they learn to say Windows OS, Linux OS, XXX Application. > > I also give a wee sentence that "Linux" is the trade mark of Linus and > > how one man's 'giving' of software without patent burden has transformed > > their lives. > > I've been involved with IT over 30 years; I know the difference. That is > /why/ I said Linux, and not GIMP or Libre Office etc; I felt it was > extraneous to say Linux OS or Windows OS when we all know Linux and Windows > are OSs. To clarify again, when I install the operating systems - either > Linux or Windows - the installation is bloated by drivers and/or languages I > do not use and most likely never will. > > Julian Linux is the kernel. Its part of the operating system, sure, but what distribution are you using? That would help... Eion articulates his point perfectly. -- Kind regards, Dom Rodriguez (shymega) -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG https://mailman.dcglug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq