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Re: [LUG] Wife's computer SSH?

 

On 14/02/2020 23:49, Eion MacDonald wrote:
On 14/02/2020 21:21, Julian Hall wrote:
On 13/02/2020 22:01, Simon Avery wrote:
Hi Eion,


     However the awful job of maintaining the Windows computer's of a
     social
     club (U3A computer group's donated laptops for use in meetings,is
     different , I bring them home about every two months for update
     etc. One
     cannot remotely maintain machines that are disconnected from
     electricity, switched off and locked in a cupboard!


True, but it's probably the safest thing for a windows computer.
Although Windows computers are now much more secure than they were,
their biggest threat now is from Microsoft, with at least three
updates in the past week causing major outages for Windows 10 and 7
users. The win10 one last week caused lots of people to lose their
search ability (part of the menu) completely - and this was caused by
Microsoft updating something in the background, bypassing all user and
corporate update settings. Then they had the gall to blame an
'external fibre provider'... Unbelievable....

Sorry, ranting. But yes, point taken. Can't update a computer that's
turned off.

RDP is the preferred way to remotely control windows machines, but
it's definitely not something to expose to the internet. A VPN or... A
ssh tunnel (phew, back on topic) to a linux machine on the same
network could let you tunnel securely to any machine it can reach....
     I can see a use for remote maintenance of older computer's I have
     changed to Linux for folk with 'problems', (age, house bound, onset of
     dementia, those not capable of Linux maintenance but who can use
     them as
     consumer's). I have three or four such folk I help.


Good man. Sadly my own mother's dementia has deteriorated way beyond
using any form of device, but I do appreciate very much the lifeline
this can bring for those isolated for whatever reason. Deep respect to
you for helping.
Absolutely agreed here.
     Social problem, would be asking them to allow me to remotely log in to
     maintain. This would be a major *no* to their privacy thinking.
     (They do not mind me turning up to maintain *in their presence* at
     their
     homes.)


Yes, and that is a real concern. Of course, you can set up automated
updates for most distributions, and it can work well. The odd problem
of course, but generally such things are well behaved.
How about a legitimate use of the procedure scammers often use? Ring the
client with a //pre-arranged// password, then they get an onscreen
prompt to allow remote access which they allow knowing it is a person
they know and trust?

Julian


OH!!!
I spend ages instructing them NEVER to accept calls about their
computers, so I am not going there!

Is is easier with the aged to have one rule with *no exceptions
whatsoever*.

Fair enough, a good policy :) I just thought I would suggest it.

Julian


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