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Re: [LUG] Wife's computer SSH?

 

On 14/02/2020 21:21, Julian Hall wrote:
> On 13/02/2020 22:01, Simon Avery wrote:
>> Hi Eion,
>>
>>
>>     However the awful job of maintaining the Windows computer's of a
>>     social
>>     club (U3A computer group's donated laptops for use in meetings,is
>>     different , I bring them home about every two months for update
>>     etc. One
>>     cannot remotely maintain machines that are disconnected from
>>     electricity, switched off and locked in a cupboard!
>>
>>
>> True, but it's probably the safest thing for a windows computer.
>> Although Windows computers are now much more secure than they were,
>> their biggest threat now is from Microsoft, with at least three
>> updates in the past week causing major outages for Windows 10 and 7
>> users. The win10 one last week caused lots of people to lose their
>> search ability (part of the menu) completely - and this was caused by
>> Microsoft updating something in the background, bypassing all user and
>> corporate update settings. Then they had the gall to blame an
>> 'external fibre provider'... Unbelievable....
>>
>> Sorry, ranting. But yes, point taken. Can't update a computer that's
>> turned off.
>>
>> RDP is the preferred way to remotely control windows machines, but
>> it's definitely not something to expose to the internet. A VPN or... A
>> ssh tunnel (phew, back on topic) to a linux machine on the same
>> network could let you tunnel securely to any machine it can reach....
>>  
>>
>>     I can see a use for remote maintenance of older computer's I have
>>     changed to Linux for folk with 'problems', (age, house bound, onset of
>>     dementia, those not capable of Linux maintenance but who can use
>>     them as
>>     consumer's). I have three or four such folk I help.
>>
>>
>> Good man. Sadly my own mother's dementia has deteriorated way beyond
>> using any form of device, but I do appreciate very much the lifeline
>> this can bring for those isolated for whatever reason. Deep respect to
>> you for helping.
> Absolutely agreed here.
>>
>>     Social problem, would be asking them to allow me to remotely log in to
>>     maintain. This would be a major *no* to their privacy thinking.
>>     (They do not mind me turning up to maintain *in their presence* at
>>     their
>>     homes.)
>>
>>
>> Yes, and that is a real concern. Of course, you can set up automated
>> updates for most distributions, and it can work well. The odd problem
>> of course, but generally such things are well behaved.
> 
> How about a legitimate use of the procedure scammers often use? Ring the
> client with a //pre-arranged// password, then they get an onscreen
> prompt to allow remote access which they allow knowing it is a person
> they know and trust?
> 
> Julian
> 
> 

OH!!!
I spend ages instructing them NEVER to accept calls about their
computers, so I am not going there!

Is is easier with the aged to have one rule with *no exceptions
whatsoever*.

-- 
regards
Eion MacDonald

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