Re: [LUG] More Raspberry woes.

From: Paul sutton <zleap@xxxxxxxxx>
To: list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, 21 March 2013, 9:54
Subject: Re: [LUG] More Raspberry woes.

If people reply could you please trim this thread properly it is a MESS.
I have left it intact so it illustrates the issue, I do try and do this
if i can but it is now just messy

Paul

> From: JOHN DAVEY <johndavey303@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, 17 March 2013, 17:37
> Subject: Re: [LUG] More Raspberry woes.

> From: Tom Brough <tombrough@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Sunday, 17 March 2013, 15:58
> Subject: Re: [LUG] More Raspberry woes.
> On 17/03/13 15:35, JOHN DAVEY wrote:
tom: Tom Brough <tombrough@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Sent: Sunday, 17 March 2013, 15:09
>>Subject: Re: [LUG] More Raspberry woes.
>>On 17/03/13 12:43, JOHN DAVEY wrote:
>>> From: JOHN DAVEY <johndavey303@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: "list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Sent: Sunday, 17 March 2013, 12:24
>>>Subject: Re: [LUG] More Raspberry woes.

>>> From: Paul Sutton <zleap@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Sent: Sunday, 17 March 2013, 12:17
>>>Subject: Re: [LUG] More Raspberry woes.
>>>On 17/03/13 12:13, JOHN DAVEY wrote:
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>>>> *From:* Paul Sutton <zleap@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> *To:* list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, 17 March 2013,
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [LUG] More Raspberry woes.
>>>>
>>>> On 17/03/13 12:04, JOHN DAVEY
> wrote: Hi, last night I visited the Raspberry site where it reccomended I do an "sudo apt-get update" and a "sudo apt-get upgrade" , now it
> won't boot into a graphical invironment. What have I done wrong ?
>>>> > Jon Davey.

>>>> Does the graphical environment start with startx, you may need to re-run the config utility and tell it to start in graphical mode again, perhaps something in the
>    update changed one of the settings.
>>>> paul
>>>> http://www.zleap.net <http://www.zleap.net/>
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>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/paul-sutton/36/595/911
>>>> http://www.raspberrypi.org <http://www.raspberrypi.org/>
>>>> http://www.ubuntu.com <http://www.ubuntu.com/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have tried that but there doesn't even seem to be a propper command prompt, just a flashing line at the edge of the screen...

>>>erk, sounds like there is more of a deeper problem, I will let gordon or perhaps one of the more experienced users give a few suggestions.
>>>Do you have a spare sd card you can make a new image and try that, this rules out hardware issues perhaps.
>>>
>>>Paul
>>>http://www.ubuntu.com
>>>
>>>
>>>....no I don't have a spare card. Oh god why does this always seem to happen to me ?!?!
>>>
>>>... I have downloaded too much onto my SD card. I'm not sure why the site would tell me to do this if it was going to have this effect
>>>

>>"[warn] root filesystem has insufficient filespace"
>>
>>This suggests that you should delete or copy some files off your SD card and delete them. For example files in the /home directory can backed up then deleted. You can
> always copy them back afterwards. I suspect that the upgrade process copied a large number of updated packages that filled up your SD card. Unfortunately its
> your responsibility to check you have enough space as no distributor of any software can tell you how much space you have left.
>>
>>For example I could recommend you have an 8Gb card but at some point you will use that space up . After packages are downloaded they are unpacked (which temporary takes even more space. I would suggest that the upgrade bombed out halfway because of lack of space to unpack one of the upgraded packages. Everything will look ok, but the next time you start up, the system will need some space for logs etc and this is where you run into problems.
>>
>> put your SD card in a card reader look at the files in /home, copy some large ones onto some other storage and delete them off the SD card, see if it boots, if it does do an apt-get update / apt-get upgrade again and watch the output carefully. If your lucky it will finish and correct any anomalies. I would also suggest apt-get clean in case any installed package files are still being cached. If all is well at that point check how much space you have and if you can copy back the files you backed up earlier. If you don't have
> the space to do this then it really is time to invest in
> a higher capacity SD card.
>>
>>>>Treat it as a learning execise ;-) Good Luck.
>>
>>Tom.
>>e ?
>>
>>
>>       . I don't have an SD card reader

>>Cheers, Jon DAVEY.
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Assuming you have a second machine:
>
> Is ssh configured on your pi?
>
> Tom.
>
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> Tom, I have reqalised that there is an SD reader on my wifes notebook
> which I should be able to use but I've heard a lot about ssh'ing and it
> sounds interesting I'd like to learn how to do it...
> Cheers, Jon
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> ...also I have checked and I do have an 8mb SD card. When you suggested
> using another machine to delete some files were you assuming that any
> other machine I might have is a Linux one? Because all I have access to is
> my wifes wwindows notebook. I havn't tried plugging the SD card into this
> yet as I am afraid I might do something wrong. Can I in fact do this ? and
> wil I be able to get any positive results ?
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...I have pourposly not been top-posting so that the thread actually DID make sense. I don't know where all these chevrons have come from at thee side. They make sense when I read the post but in you're they did make a mess like you say. I'LL try to do a bit of trimming.Also If it looks more messy prehaps one of us is mailing in plain text and the other in ....that other one I forget what it's called but it allows HTML where plain text doesn't IIRC.
aLL THE BEST jon.