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Re: [LUG] More Raspberry woes.

 

If people reply could you please trim this thread properly it is a MESS. 
I have left it intact so it illustrates the issue, I do try and do this 
if i can but it is now just messy

Paul

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>  From: JOHN DAVEY <johndavey303@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, 17 March 2013, 17:37
> Subject: Re: [LUG] More Raspberry woes.
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>  From: Tom Brough <tombrough@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Sunday, 17 March 2013, 15:58
> Subject: Re: [LUG] More Raspberry woes.
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> On 17/03/13 15:35, JOHN DAVEY wrote:
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>>________________________________
>> From: Tom Brough <tombrough@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Sent: Sunday, 17 March 2013, 15:09
>>Subject: Re: [LUG] More Raspberry woes.
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>>On 17/03/13 12:43, JOHN DAVEY wrote:
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>>>________________________________
>>> From: JOHN DAVEY <johndavey303@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: "list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Sent: Sunday, 17 March 2013, 12:24
>>>Subject: Re: [LUG] More Raspberry woes.
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>>>________________________________
>>> From: Paul Sutton <zleap@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Sent: Sunday, 17 March 2013, 12:17
>>>Subject: Re: [LUG] More Raspberry woes.
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>>>On 17/03/13 12:13, JOHN DAVEY wrote:
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>>>> *From:* Paul Sutton <zleap@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> *To:* list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, 17 March 2013,
>                                   12:06
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [LUG] More
>                                   Raspberry woes.
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>>>> On 17/03/13 12:04, JOHN DAVEY
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>>>> > Hi, last night I visited the
>                                   Raspberry site where it reccomended I
>                                   do
>>>> > an "sudo apt-get update" ans
>                                   a "sudo apt-get upgrade" , now it
>                                   won't
>>>> > boot into a graphical
>                                   invironment. What have I done wrong ?
>>>> > Jon Davey.
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>>>> Does the graphical environment
>                                   start with startx,  you may need to
>>>> re-run the config utility and
>                                   tell it to start in graphical mode
>>>> again,  perhaps something in the
>                                   update changed one of the settings.
>>>> paul
>>>> http://www.zleap.net <http://www.zleap.net/>
>>>> skype : psutton111
>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/paul-sutton/36/595/911
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>>>> http://www.raspberrypi.org <http://www.raspberrypi.org/>
>>>> http://www.ubuntu.com <http://www.ubuntu.com/>
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>>>> I am committed to safeguarding
>                                   children, young people and vulnerable
>>>> groups and expect any school or
>                                   establishment I am involved with to
>>>> share this commitment.
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>>>> I have tried that but there
>                                   doesn't even seem to be a propper
>                                   command
>>>> prompt, just a flashing line at
>                                   the edge of the screen...
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>>>erk,  sounds like there is more of a
>                                   deeper problem,  I will let gordon
>>>or perhaps one of the more experienced
>                                   users give a few suggestions.
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>>>Do you have a spare sd card you can
>                                   make a new image and try that, 
>>>this rules out hardware issues
>                                   perhaps.
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>>>Paul
>>>http://www.ubuntu.com
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>>>I am committed to safeguarding
>                                   children, young people and vulnerable
>                                   groups and expect any school or
>                                   establishment I am involved with to
>                                   share this commitment.
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>>>....no I don't have a spare card. Oh
>                                   god why does this always seem to
>                                   happen to me ?!?!
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>>>...I was just thinking, is it possible
>                                   that I have downloaded too much onto
>                                   my SD card. I'm not sure why the site
>                                   would tell me to do this if it was
>                                   going to have this effect but....what
>                                   can I say my Raspberry is now
>                                   unuseable and when it boots up is says
>                                   something about "[warn] root
>                                   filesystem has insufficient filespace"
>                                   what have I done?!
>>>Jon Davey.
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>>"[warn] root filesystem has insufficient filespace"
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>>This suggests that you should delete or copy some files
>                 off your SD card and delete them. For example files in
>                 the /home directory can backed up then deleted. You can
>                 always copy them back afterwards. I suspect that the
>                 upgrade process copied a large number of updated
>                 packages that filled up your SD card. Unfortunately its
>                 your responsibility to check you have enough space as no
>                 distributor of any software can tell you how much space
>                 you have left.
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>>For example I could recommend you have an 8Gb card but
>                 at some point you will use that space up . After
>                 packages are downloaded they are unpacked (which
>                 temporary takes even more space. I would suggest that
>                 the upgrade bombed out halfway because of lack of space
>                 to unpack one of the upgraded packages. Everything will
>                 look ok,  but the next time you start up, the system
>                 will need some space for logs etc and this is where you
>                 run into problems.
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>>As I said before, put your SD card in a card reader look
>                 at the files in /home, copy some large ones onto some
>                 other storage and delete them off the SD card, see if it
>                 boots, if it does do an apt-get update / apt-get upgrade
>                 again and watch the output carefully. If your lucky it
>                 will finish and correct any anomalies. I would also
>                 suggest apt-get clean in case any installed package
>                 files are still being cached. If all is well at that
>                 point check how much space you have and if you can copy
>                 back the files you backed up earlier. If you don't have
>                 the space to do this then it really is time to invest in
>                 a higher capacity SD card.
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>>If its any consolation I have run into the same problem
>                 on desktops when my root drive filled up. I couldn't
>                 even get a console session from Alt-F1 etc... Luckily
>                 sshd had started so in the end I had to ssh into the
>                 system (the only way I could get access) and delete some
>                 stuff (log files in /var/logs are a good source of
>                 redundant bloated log files, although these days
>                 logrotate tends to keep them in check, not sure if pi
>                 supports logrotate as I dont have one .... yet).
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>>Treat it as a learning execise ;-) Good Luck.
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>>Tom.
>>e ?
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>>Hi, thanks for the reply. I don't have an SD card reader so
>             I'll have to get one of those I guess from somewhere. I'm
>             not really sure how to check how much space I have on my
>             card yet. I'll work it out somehow.
>>Cheers, Jon DAVEY.
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> Assuming you have a second machine:
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> Is ssh configured on your pi? If so, and you have a second machine
>     you could try ssh terminal connection. If you can log in that way
>     you should at least be able to tidy up some stuff... possibly enough
>     to get it to boot properly. That way you wouldn't need an SD card
>     reader (although they are always handy things to have and cost £1 in
>     poundland).
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> Tom.
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> Tom, I have reqalised that there is an SD reader on my wifes notebook
> which I should be able to use but I've heard a lot about ssh'ing and it
> sounds interesting I'd like to learn how to do it...
> Cheers, Jon
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> ...also I have checked and I do have an 8mb SD card. When you suggested
> using another machine to delete some files were you assuming that any
> other machine I might have is a Linux one? Because all I have access to is
> my wifes wwindows notebook. I havn't tried plugging the SD card into this
> yet as I am afraid I might do something wrong. Can I in fact do this ? and
> wil I be able to get any positive results ?
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