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Re: [LUG] Debian mirrors, was Strange Problem 2

 

On 20/12/12 17:08, bad apple wrote:

> Everything Simon says, and I'd go further than that as well: Debian is
> the best operating system in the world.
>
> Now that is a major claim, so here is my reasoning. For a start, it's
> open source and free in both senses of the word. That will always
> elevate it over any proprietary system in existence because although it
> may not have all the bells, whistles and features of zOS, AIX, Mac OS or
> Windows, you will always be able to get it and use it for nothing. And
> anyone can add the features themselves: it may not be particularly easy,
> but I assure you that writing things like LPAR functionality on Power
> boxes wasn't 'easy' either. If you're a fortune 500 company and you must
> have some hardcore enterprise functionality, there's nothing stopping
> you paying a crack team of C gurus to write it for you and deploy it on
> Debian, rather than Solaris or HPUX. The source code will always be free
> and available to everyone, not just channel partners with deep pockets.
> You or anyone else can always fork it and make it your own at any moment
> and Debian won't care.
>
> If you're a Stallman-esque free as in freedom advocate, stock Debian by
> default qualifies as "Free". But if you want linux-firmware, proprietary
> blobs for wifi and graphics hardware, it's all in the clearly labelled
> non-free repos. Debian has excellent ports to multiple platforms, from
> lowly ARM devices to multi-million dollar s390 big iron and everything
> in between. Debian stable is indeed very conservative in package choice,
> but that's why they have Testing for more current packages and Sid for
> the absolute bleeding edge - again, something for everyone. Choice is a
> good thing. If even Sid isn't new enough for you, then like me you can
> "apt-get source" from mentors.debian.net and build it yourself. Debian
> documentation is thoroughly excellent, bug tracking is top-notch and
> developers (generally, there are always a few...) won't give you the
> OpenBSD-style tough love if you dare to contact them directly with issues.
>
> Finally, there is a huge Debian community to pester online for help and
> google will return literally millions of hits for almost any query you
> can come up with. There are countless forums and dedicated sites for
> users and admins to pool resources. And of course, the new poster boys
> of the linux world, Ubuntu and Mint, amongst many others, wouldn't even
> exist if it wasn't for Debian.
>
> I use, or have used, most operating systems in existence, and some of
> them I really like and actually prefer to use for certain tasks (I
> wouldn't use Debian for a network-edge router for example, although I
> *could*) so I'm not a fanatic advocating Debian for everything and
> nothing else - I actually use RedHat or derivatives more often in the
> day job and my laptop is currently running Arch. I've got a windows
> install for occasional gaming. But I'm just pointing out that we maybe
> don't appreciate good old boring Debian quite as much as we should do.
> And that's why I think Debian is the best OS in the world.
>
> Cheers
>
> PS:  almost 20 years in, and except on Sid, I've NEVER had dependency
> hell on Debian.


 I second everything you say.

As for dependency hell I often had it when I worked with Redhat (and
Fedora) and SuSE  IMHO rpm isn't in the same league as Debian's package
manager ie. dpkg and apt or aptitude. 

Keith


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