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Re: [LUG] OT: Spelling religious war flamebait

 

 On 10/12/2012 11:52, tom wrote:
On 10/12/12 11:41, paul sutton wrote:
On 10/12/12 11:28, tom wrote:
On 10/12/12 11:06, paul sutton wrote:
On 10/12/12 10:22, tom wrote:
On 10/12/12 09:22, Philip Hudson wrote:
On 10 Dec, 2012, at 8:55 am, tom wrote:

Using mercan spelling makes as much sense as using 3 for pi. It
might be 'easier' but achieves nothing of use to anyone.
Go on, just take a deep breath and let go of those silly UK
spellings. You can do it. Accept that American spellings are
phonetically truer, truer to Latin and Greek originals, shorter, more
consistent, easier to learn and remember, and altogether utterly and
completely superior. You're a logical, reasoning, rational sort of
chap, a global cybernaut, way beyond petty prejudice and chauvinism.

compare Sulphur (uk) to Sulfur,  the latter is now the accepted
international spelling. It makes more sense, This was a decision made
by the international chemistry people not us simply adopting American
spellings.

Oddly employers or potential employers here seem to think its ok to
write Dear Paul on official correspondence,  despite the fact I use
proper salutations. Such as Dear Mr, Mrs, Ms, Miss. To me what I use is more professional, and if I write to you like that you should write back (just because I am using e-mail does not mean that e-mail can't be
made formal / informal.

I have had letters from the US that use the salutation / surname
format, so we are not getting this casual unprofessional attitude from
the USA.

You can't tell me times are changing as if you get official
correspondence from the tax office, NHS et al, they do it properly. If
you expect this from school leavers it may help if the teachers did it
properly.


Paul


The trouble is probably the teaching is too hard. Sulfur doesnt not
really make more sense than sulfur - say that in devon and its
mistaken for silver - the ph emphasises the f! Thats just an
international agreement where getting it wrong can blow people up. But
accents change - no-one was esturine when I was younger now half the
country seems to be. To change spelling to adapt to the latest fashion
just makes it harder for everyone in the long run.
Its very short sighted to think that making spelling easier will
somehow make language easier. When was the last time you spelt out a
familiar word when writing? It was, like most of your language skills,
learned by rote and not phonetically. If you are serious about doing
things phonetically then lets do it properly - teach everyone the
phonetic alphabet - that 44 speech sounds (and more now things that
beep at us are becoming part of speech). You'll be 10 before you can
write your name!
Tom te tom te tom

We are teaching phonics in schools,  By the phonetic alphabet do you
mean letter sounds,  digraphs and split digraphs,  as in the o sound and
oo sound etc.

or do you mean words for letters as in

A - Alpha
B - Bravo
C - Charlie etc used by the police and emergency services and very
useful when giving people your post code as it helps bridge accent
barriers even in the Uk.

I guess you mean the former.

Paul

We could just start again and develop a new set of characters so there is no confusion with existing ones. But how about there and their: logically they should be reduce to ther so you wont know if its ther ther or ther ther or someone else's all together or just an expression of sympathy for the whole idea?
Tom te tom te tom

Or 'We reduced three to two too' becomes 'we reduced three to to to'.. *head->desk*

Julian

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