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Re: [LUG] OT: Spelling religious war flamebait

 

On 10/12/12 11:28, tom wrote:
> On 10/12/12 11:06, paul sutton wrote:
>> On 10/12/12 10:22, tom wrote:
>>> On 10/12/12 09:22, Philip Hudson wrote:
>>>> On 10 Dec, 2012, at 8:55 am, tom wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Using mercan spelling makes as much sense as using 3 for pi. It
>>>>> might be 'easier' but achieves nothing of use to anyone.
>>>> Go on, just take a deep breath and let go of those silly UK
>>>> spellings. You can do it. Accept that American spellings are
>>>> phonetically truer, truer to Latin and Greek originals, shorter, more
>>>> consistent, easier to learn and remember, and altogether utterly and
>>>> completely superior. You're a logical, reasoning, rational sort of
>>>> chap, a global cybernaut, way beyond petty prejudice and chauvinism.
>>>>
>> compare Sulphur (uk) to Sulfur,  the latter is now the accepted
>> international spelling.  It makes more sense,   This was a decision made
>> by the international chemistry people not us simply adopting American
>> spellings.
>>
>> Oddly employers or potential employers here seem to think its ok to
>> write Dear Paul on official correspondence,  despite the fact I use
>> proper salutations.    Such as Dear Mr, Mrs, Ms, Miss.  To me what I use
>> is more professional,  and if I write to you like that you should write
>> back (just because I am using e-mail does not mean that e-mail can't be
>> made formal / informal.
>>
>> I have had letters from the US that use the salutation / surname
>> format,  so we are not getting this casual unprofessional attitude from
>> the USA.
>>
>> You can't tell me times are changing as if you get official
>> correspondence from the tax office, NHS et al, they do it properly.  If
>> you expect this from school leavers it may help if the teachers did it
>> properly.
>>
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
> The trouble is probably the teaching is too hard. Sulfur doesnt not
> really make more sense than sulfur - say that in devon and its
> mistaken for silver - the ph emphasises the f! Thats just an
> international agreement where getting it wrong can blow people up. But
> accents change - no-one was esturine when I was younger now half the
> country seems to be. To change spelling to adapt to the latest fashion
> just makes it harder for everyone in the long run.
> Its very short sighted to think that making spelling easier will
> somehow make language easier. When was the last time you spelt out a
> familiar word when writing? It was, like most of your language skills,
> learned by rote and not phonetically. If you are serious about doing
> things phonetically then lets do it properly - teach everyone the
> phonetic alphabet - that 44 speech sounds (and more now things that
> beep at us are becoming part of speech). You'll be 10 before you can
> write your name!
> Tom te tom te tom
>
We are teaching phonics in schools,  By the phonetic alphabet do you
mean letter sounds,  digraphs and split digraphs,  as in the o sound and
oo sound etc.

or do you mean words for letters as in

A - Alpha
B - Bravo
C - Charlie etc used by the police and emergency services and very
useful when giving people your post code as it helps bridge accent
barriers even in the Uk.

I guess you mean the former.

Paul

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