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On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Mark Evans wrote: > Did they give you a number to call them back on? They did. One that has been used by scammers for a long time - longer than the site they were using has been registered, so they obviously change 'companies'. > Did you give them a completely random number, one which should pass a > basic validation check or one reserved for drama purposes? I don't have one of the latter kind, but I did use an existing card and modified that a bit: I left the first four digits unchanged, and swapped most of the others. I didn't have time to read up on the checksums used in credit cards and I didn't expect it to go through but it did; when I have a moment I'm going to see if the number I gave them could be valid. Pretty certain it can't be though. > I suspect that these people are "script kiddies", probably actually > following a script. They probably wouldn't even notice a VMware/Virtual > Box tray icon. The person doing the actual 'work' was someone else than who was talking to me. The former obviously knew his way around Windows computers, but probably not too much. However, I don't think it's that trivial for someone to detect that the machine is running inside a virtual machine - there's definitely no tray icon saying that. The oddest thing was that I was told that after the conversation ended, they would clean up the machine. (After all, that's what I 'paid' for.) I was told not to do anything to the computer and that it would take about one and a half hours. And it did! (Albeit with long-ish breaks.) They did all sorts of vaguely plausible stuff: downloaded and ran lots of free (but genuine) scanning tools (including one that showed that the machine was very unprotected; they then closed that window), the guy even tried to activate my Windows version. Martijn. -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq