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On Wed, 25 Nov 2009, Andy Smith wrote:
Hello, On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 11:50:05PM +0000, Gordon Henderson wrote:I run mailing lists. Some have over 2000 members... The biggest issues I've had over the past few years is the muppets and numpties who will not trim posts, nor post in plain text, and not attach images, documents, etc...The biggest issue that lug.org.uk has had is people who report mailing list posts that they asked for as spam, and people who use services like Spamcop as an all-or-nothing indicator of whether to accept the email. The combination of the two is unfortunate as Spamcop will list on a single unverified report.
That too. And AOL - where I'm told the 'spam' button is right next to the 'delete' button. I get swathes of AOL Spam reports sent to me from some postings....
Even the worst abuses of top posting, replying to entire digests with a single word, and so on, are not really noticeable traffic-wise. Posing of large images and other binary attachments occasionally is, if you look for it, but most lists seem to quite effectively self-moderate in these outrageous cases.
That's a fact of todays modern Internet septemberoid, and Outlooks default settings. It's like wading through cold treacle to try to re-edudate them..
Once a single 1MB image is attached, those 2000 posts become 2GB of data to ship. (And bounce back )-:The default size limit in Mailman is 40KiB. There are also fairly good attachment type filters in Mailman which can be turned on if desired.
I run majordomos which has similar settable limits, but it makes no differece at all when they're paying customers and ask to be able to send images, attachments, etc...
Sometimes I think these people are better off with webby forums ;-) Gordon -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html