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Re: [LUG] Helping newbies

 

Robin Cornelius wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Eion MacDonald <eionmac@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>  Major problem with most Gnu/Linux distros for newbies is the loss of a
>>  default MS Windows while they dual boot on a Linux kernal upgrade, even
>>  in Ubuntu, which is some what easier on upgrades than others. Editing
>>  GRUB is not for newbies so a 'push' upgrade like last few days  renders
>>  them with unbootable windows, and only Linux, This is major point to
>>  teach newbies how to edit grub.
> 
> Are you saying that on Ubuntu if you upgrade the kernel via apt it
> kills other grub entries? Eeek Was this upgrade buggy or is this
> normal? i would not consider this acceptable at all.
> 
> Robin
> 
No. Normal default action in Ubuntu since 6.04. I concur not acceptable 
but it exists.
(In SuSE since 9 - the disto writers/composers think their distro must 
be the default!)
1. Ubuntu has an automatic upgrade system, notification, and accept is 
all user does.(like windows)
2. If kernel upgraded, it needs a reboot. Rewrites GRUB with new Ubuntu 
as the default system. (First entry in Grub menu.1st)
This overwrites the old Grub with windows as default i.e first active 
choice in menu.1st

3. For this reason, which has occurred too many times for me to see as 
an intermittent problem, if using Ubuntu or SuSE (she prefers SuSE as a 
second system ),my wife never responds to 'updates available' button in 
Ubuntu leaving for me to update.
SuSE is same, but much easier to correct, as it will allow default 
selection in YaST and ordering of list without editing GRUB manually.

4. use of apt get is not newbie way, when a button screams  update 
available !

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