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On 19/04/17 12:07, Richard Brown wrote: > I'm just looking at downloading the ISO and the links you sent are > brilliant. I have downloaded Gnome but now wondering if I ought to try > KDE. Any thoughts? I was going to ask the question on the list but then > realised I might start a flame war! Hi Richard, I'm punting this back to the list actually as for once, I don't have much to say on this. I do have preferences* but when I was very young and new to all this I read a phrack interview with a hacker who said he always strived to be completely hardware and software agnostic and didn't care what he used as long as he had easy shell access. That made a *big* impression on me and I've always stayed true to that philosophy: I'll use literally anything as long as I've got /bin/sh and network - CDE, Irix Magic Desktop, Windows WDM, AmigaOS Workbench, a bare VT, Gnome, XFCE, Awesome, a phone, your phone, whatever Â\_(ã)_/Â Don't worry about flaming, everyone here (except me!) seems pretty mature so I'm sure you'll get some decent input. Good luck with your Debian install by the way - now you've got your ISO pretty much anything would work to make the USB stick, including the Ubuntu startup disk creator you originally asked about. Cheers * For the record: The only DE I don't get on with is KDE - it's just too complicated and fiddly for me. Nothing against it of course, just not my cup of tea. Conversely everyone else in the entire world seems to despise Gnome3... I rather like it. Also Unity is a technical dead end and officially discontinued, but that doesn't rule it out if you really like it of course. These days I do tend towards increasingly ultra-simple, stripped out windowing environments on *nix: Awesome, blackbox and i3 are great for just getting out of my way and letting me have a pretty wallpaper, pink highlights (yeah, seriously) and pulling up lots and lots of lovely shells. I don't care much about anything else. -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG https://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq