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> On 15 Jun 2016, at 21:53, Gordon Henderson <gordon+lug@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Wed, 15 Jun 2016, Kai Hendry wrote: > >> On 14 June 2016 at 15:55, Simon Waters <simon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> There was talk of FTTP, but I've not heard of anyone in Cornwall getting >>> it. >> >> Julian Cowans from the http://www.cornwalldevelopmentcompany.co.uk/ >> told me FTTP is available in towns like Bodmin. > > BT have stopped offering FTTPod (on demand), but FTTP may still be possibled from > exchanges + cabinets enabled for it. Not all cabinets have the right kit in them. > >> Furthermore >> https://www.openreach.co.uk/orpg/home/products/ductandpolesharing/ductandpolesharing.do >> should enable one to cable upto the cabinet. But I think only BT offer >> this service and cringe to think how much they charge. >> >> If there were competitors to connect folks with fibre, I would love to >> get some quotes for the 1.xkm to the cabinet. > > It's utterly trivial to get fibre - but it's not the crappy consumer grade > "broadband" you think you want, but proper uncontended Internet access, and as > such costs accordingly. It's a standard 60 working day setup/install and you get > the choice of ISPs. There are many - some will have access to their own fibre, > some will lease fibre from other carriers, but the Internet plumbing will go to > their own network. > > The last quote I had for my own home was Â3000 install and Â1000 a month for a > 100Mb symetrical and uncontended service. thats more likely the dedicated ethernet service. It not the same thing and overkill for most people and small businesses. > > Even FTTP comes with "excess construction charges" almost all the time. Knowing > where my cabinet is and how the wire gets to my house, I know it would take a team > at least a day to get the fibre to me - if it was even possible. When they > replaced the pole a month or so ago they were unable to run new cable from the > cabinet to the duct at the bottom of the pole, so they spliced in more copper )-: > I actually have FTTP @300Mbps in Newlyn, Its Â550/quarter + vat on a Business contract. Its awesome and a lot cheaper than the alternatives. To get it you need to talk to the BT business team for Cornwall .. See the bt business website. Its option 3 or option4 business broadband in BT speak. there a Â100 new line install charge because you don't use the existing copper line and the tel number is a sip number. >> I'm also wondering why I haven't heard of any "WISPS". Folks supplying >> Internet from cabinets wirelessly say. > > Because its stupidly hard to do so, and expensive for the ISP. You need this > magical thing called "line of sight". Can you see the cabinet from the house? > Could you even see 15m above the cabinet? (You can generally put up a 15m mast > without planning permission) > > There is currently some trials and live service of Airband wireless broadband in > Devon & Somerset to fill-in the spots where FTTC can't reach. They're offering a > 30Mb/sec. service which isn't bad. I missed out on the trial because they couldn't > see the bottom of the mast from my house. Putting kit on existing masts is > trivial, but height costs money and it's an exponential sort of costs - the higher > you go, the more is costs... > > I did this here 14 years ago, and I was involved in the 1st Broadband system over > the Penwith peninsula at the same time. Wireless is great, but never a long-term > solution for this sort of thing. > > Start pruning those trees... > Gordon-- > The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG > https://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list > FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG https://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq