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The corner thing is neither logical nor done well. The MS exec responsible for W8 has been moved on, but the market (well ms shareholders) require it happen as saying we blew it would be too expensive. The tile thing (metro/modern) works, and if this was the only interface in W8 it would be a passable tablet/phone gui. The problem stems from combining it with the desktop from W7, it looks like a 'cut and shut' job. That picking IE from one interface runs a different version to picking IE from the other (at least in the beta vm image released) confirms the impression. I had to remember how I started IE during my testing with it, and do all tests twice, once in each version, and ug hunting is harder as the metro browser is sort of locked down. Basic problem with corners is you need to know how to do it, no visual clues, and at least on mine the corner was hard to hit. I'm guessing most businesses will disable modern (at least on non-touch devices), and end up with what is a service pack for W7. Home users may like it if they like Windows phone, otherwise it will be detested. Saw a suggestion the other day that "modern" disable itself automatically on non-touch devices, this makes sense to me, but the kind of decision that should have been made early in the lifecycle. But then I use gnome classic so maybe I can't cope with GUI changes :) -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq