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On 10/12/12 06:51, Simon Avery wrote: >> RMS is as usual correct, and I'd like to propose a very simple answer to >> the whole Ubuntu situation: >> >> Debian. > I'd agree with that! Debian answers several questions well. > > One comment on the linked page stood out; > > "but since when was "free software" equated with "respects your privacy". > > Culturally most of it does, and by consequence of having access to the > code any privacy concerns can easily be detected / removed by end > users if desired, but I still don't see the connection between free > software and assumed privacy. If anything this seems like a dangerous > assumption." > > He's right, and it's becoming more noticable as distros get somehow > commercialised whilst still being free. Debian has what I've > previously thought to be very restrictive "free" policies and doesn't > need to charge because it's mostly supported by individuals, rather > than large single-purpose entities like Canonical, Mint, etc. Their > business plan is to be successful via advertising, polish and high > impact - and these cost money. Ubunut of course also sent (still > sends?) out free copies via DVD. > > We shouldn't rubbish Ubuntu, it's done a hell of a lot for linux in > making it more accessible and in supporting more modern hardware. Back > when it started, getting a GUI going on Debian was a royal pain, > whereas Ubuntu did it ALL for you. But these monetizing efforts by > Ubuntu and others using my personal information has me very concerned > and I do not like it. At all. > I agree ubuntu do a really good job, especially with software centre, however if you want the ease of use of ubuntu without the lenses and unity you can always use lubuntu or xubuntu, the former has its own software centre to install / remove software. Paul -- -- http://drupal.zleap.net skype : psutton111 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/paul-sutton/36/595/911 http://www.raspberrypi.org http://www.ubuntu.com -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq