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Re: [LUG] lighthouse/resurrection day/386

 

On Tue, 26 Jan 2010, Rob Beard wrote:

And personally, I'd suggest they go for a BT wholesale ISP rather than
an LLU one - and go for a business package with "elevated service
levels" (what they used to call the old 20:1 contention ratio). Read
some reports recently about the Be network being a bit overloaded at
times... But maybe they can use a cheaper ISP for the cafe side and a
business quality one for the "office" side of things.

Ok, I'll do a bit more looking into it. Presumably it'll be something along the lines of the Enta business connections?

Yes. Standard Entanet monthly costs for their business packages are £19.75 (15GB), £25.75 (45GB), £36.75 (90GB) plus VAT. Number is ()'s is the monthly data cap at peak time - Peak is 8am to 8pm, unlimited outside that time.

The idea of this is that the connection with the faster upload speed will be used for the internet radio, which will then be streamed onto a shoutcast server to redistribute the stream. It will also be used of their office network.

Make sure they get a good router too - especially if they're sharing
the connection - one that has traffic shaping/QoS - unless you're
planning on putting in a Linux box..

I was looking at putting in an IPCop box. Not sure how well it handles traffic shaping/QoS. I'm open to suggestions though if anyone else can suggest anything.

Not ideas there myself - I build mine out of Linux boxes!!! It might be that we can build/use one with 3 Ethernet ports - and run 2 ADSL modems off it and arrange fall over type of thing. Might work out cheaper than 2 routers plus something else - although I'd need to sit down & work it out!

There is also dedicated hardware to do it too - which is much easier to
use, if a little more in the capital cost department - although I did
once write a package to do "ticketing" for access to community
broadbands...

Do you have any more details on this Gordon, such as a manufacturer or supplier?

Now you come to think about it, it's been some years since I last installed one, and checking that supplier it seems they don't exist anymore )-: black box plus a printer - connected to broadband via ethernet and had wi-fi and a 4-port ethernet switch. It cost £450 at the time.

We know Linux can do everything, but somtimes just putting in a black
box is easier...

Yep, they have got a limited budget though so I'm not sure how much they'd be able to spare. I guess if they were charging for the access then it wouldn't matter as much.

That's probably OK - change the code weekly and turn it off at night....

Saying that, Endsleigh used to do the ticketing thing, but stopped
recently and just made it free for all ... Maybe it's easier.

Possibly, maybe it would be better to do it along the lines of what the Shoreline have, enter a key to connect working on a trust basis. I gather that at least with IPCop it's possible to throttle the connection per machine, so maybe that might be the way to do it, and limit each machine connecting to say 512kbit/sec which should be enough for web browsing/light e-mail I'd say.

Maybe more hassle than it's worth...

Gordon
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