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Re: [LUG] UKFSN problems

 

On Fri, 13 Feb 2009, Dave Berkeley wrote:

Well, the connection came back up yesterday morning. A total of 55h outage
spread over 4 days. That was for a scheduled 10m downtime on Monday. UkFsn
tells me that asking for a reduction in the bill is "unreasonable".
It's a tricky situation - you probably don't have an SLA, so no guarantee 
of service, and if you claim a business loss, they'll claim you should be 
using a business grade package with backup.. (Enta do offer a 4-hour 
support fix, but it's £12.75 a month extra!) The best you might hope for 
is a pro-rata refund, and on a £20 package, it'll be £1 a day, so 4 quid 
might buy you a pint and a packet of crisps...
 Judging by
the comments I've heard here, service from all providers is pretty much
random, and tech support all poor. It is just pot luck. None of the providers
seem interested in having happy customers.
They'll say that over 95% of their customers are happy, so supporting the 
remaining number is the hard bit - Personally I'm terrified at the 
prospect of going for the general public as a customer, either ADSL or 
VoIP, and even if I were to target those who are generlaly more clued up 
(eg. 'us' and maybe UKFSN subscribers), it's still a huge jump. I don't 
envy them!
With little to distinguish between
the services you are left with price. I'm paying around £25 /month for a
landline I hardly use (except to call ISPs when the net is down!) and another
£20 /month for my EntaNet account.
Why are you paying BT £25 a month? (I'm guessing your on "Option 3" or 
whatever they call it these days)
If so, see if you can reduce it to the bare minimum - I pay BT £10.50 a 
month (going up in April )-: and all incoming calls come in via BT, but 
outgoing are via VoIP. (Actually, I pay extra for incoming caller ID, but 
I think that's 75p a month)
The support thing is the concern - Even as an Entanet reseller, I've found 
their support to be a bit sluggish as of late - whether it's the volume of 
support issues after the migration to the new platform, or they're just 
being tardy, I don't know.
I'm still convinced it's worth while paying a few quid more for an ISP 
that's better than the bulk buy ones, but the list is small - Enta (via a 
reseller), Zen, AAISP (?), and maybe plusnet at a push...
To be fair, EntaNet did eventually start taking the matter seriously, and from
Wednesday kept me informed of the progress.
That's basically my experience too - once they'r eon the case, things will 
progress - it's just getting over that initial hurdle, going through (or 
pretending to) their dummy scripts and so on, pushing for a resolution. I 
have a fault on my own line, but it's so intermittent, that when the last 
time I tried to get it fixed, I eventualyl gave up as by the time they got 
round to it, the "fault" had cleared itself. (It's a bad connection and 
onl manifests itself after about 3 weeks of dry, warm weather - so living 
in the 2nd wettest town in Devon, that's rare!)
It seems that I can knock around 40% off my monthly bill by moving to Virgin
cable (or fibre as they call it), and hopefully get a faster connection too.
Luck of the draw if you're in a Virgin area who was once owned by a decent 
cable co before the mergers... Find others in your area and see how they 
rate the service. Speed isn't everything - I'd carefully check the data 
caps too which is much more important for downloading ISOs, viweing 
iPlayer, etc.
For back-up I am thinking of putting a mobile broadband dongle up in the roof
space, where I hope I can get a better signal. I could control it from a spare
gumstix, with power over ethernet. I can PXE boot the gumstix, and NFS mount
the rootfs, to control the whole system from my server.
There are mobile devices with rs232 links which will save the hassle of 
using an extra PC - they may only be limited to GPRS speeds though.
I've used these for examepl:

http://www.westlake.co.uk/Cellroute_GPRS_GSM_Fixed_Cellular_Terminal_gateway.htm

but only as a phone and SMS gateway.

Depends on what you need it for though - emergency email and a bit of web browsing with images off works fine over GPRS, but anything else is painfully slow. (And make sure you're in a 3G coverage area on your chosen network too!)
I would prefer a fixed IP address, which Virgin won't do. But I can always use
DynDNS, which would also cope with the occasional use of a mobile backup
connection.

What could possibly go wrong?

Better would be connection sharing between neighbours. Has anyone tried this?
You need the goodwill of them and preferably your own NAT router/firewall 
to keep their virus laden WinPC's off your nice clean Linux network...
Good luck!

Gordon


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On Thursday 12 February 2009 22:11:08 Gordon Henderson wrote:
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009, Shaun Orchard wrote:
In Cornwall it's even worse.

The few exchanges that have been unbundled (the major towns as usual) are
done by the rubbish pile them high outfits, like Tiscali/AOL/CPW, and a
few by Sky/Easynet (the one of two LLU providers I'd actually consider
moving to). I think Be (the other one) are in Saltash only.

My own exchange doesn't have any LLU either. Fortunately my exchange does
have a WBC date (which doesn't appear to be very many in Cornwall) in the
very distant future (!)
More than mines got! (Buckfastleigh) No target date, nothing.

But I always wondered if BT just hate us for the Wi-Fi project we ran..

Gordon

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