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Gordon Henderson wrote: > > I actually suspect part of what made it harder for me was never having > used a "modern" window manager. (I use fvwm - been using it for the past > 16 years) Working out how to lock applications to the task bar (wossat > then?) was tricky - initially What desktop did you install then? > and installing the right wi-fi stuff. I > ended up compiling a custom kernel for it too and removing 100's of > packages that really aren't needed, and while it boots in under a minute, > it's way longer than the original 15 seconds that Linpus Lite booted in.. There was a nice article.... http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/620 But I wouldn't go there myself - except perhaps the advice for GRUB timeout and starting X earlier on laptops. > Still, that's progress for you! In Lenny's defence I suspect it is capable of booting the disk pretty much whatever hardware you now choose to plug it into with the same processor archtecture. Which is great for us server types, whose hardware dies and we can transplant stuff easily. Pretty pointless for most other folk. I did once propose slaying anyone who suggests making the machines wait "<an integer> number of seconds" for any action except responding to a user key strokes. Which would solve about half the delays with most computers in my experience. This would include culling the authors of a lot of RFC's - but it would save the rest of the world a lot of time, when all those seconds are totalled up. e.g. DHCP "The client SHOULD wait a random time between one and ten seconds to desynchronize the use of DHCP at startup." - centiseconds would probably have been ample here for 1997. Even then most big networks were switched, so DHCP storms weren't a huge issue, and besides the protocol would retry between 3 and 5 seconds per host if it did cause an issue (Simon cries into alcohol free beer). -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html