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On Sun, 1 Feb 2009, Simon Waters wrote: > Gordon Henderson wrote: >> >> I actually suspect part of what made it harder for me was never having >> used a "modern" window manager. (I use fvwm - been using it for the past >> 16 years) Working out how to lock applications to the task bar (wossat >> then?) was tricky - initially > > What desktop did you install then? xfce. If she leaves it here today I'll grab some screenshots, but I don't think my setup is anything special. Not really having used xfce before I didn't know how to put icons into the task bar to launch programs - eg. icedove. I did a find / ... to find an incedove icon for example... Maybe there's a nice way to do these things, I just don't know, and now it's Monday and I have to earn a living... >> and installing the right wi-fi stuff. I >> ended up compiling a custom kernel for it too and removing 100's of >> packages that really aren't needed, and while it boots in under a minute, >> it's way longer than the original 15 seconds that Linpus Lite booted in.. > > There was a nice article.... > > http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/620 Thats useful. > But I wouldn't go there myself - except perhaps the advice for GRUB > timeout and starting X earlier on laptops. I use Lilo... Works for me. I never understaood grub and frankly can't be bothered to take the time to udnerstand it when Lilo seems to work perfectly well. >> Still, that's progress for you! > > In Lenny's defence I suspect it is capable of booting the disk pretty > much whatever hardware you now choose to plug it into with the same > processor archtecture. Which is great for us server types, whose > hardware dies and we can transplant stuff easily. Pretty pointless for > most other folk. Indeed - however, I'd not put Lenny on a production server until it's stable though - there still appears to be a few lurking horrors from what I've glanced at. Gordon -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html