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On 30/09/2020 19:10, comrade meowski wrote: > On 30/09/2020 18:32, Grant Phillips-Sewell wrote: >> But then I have 56GB of RAM in my main rig - only 4 in my laptop. I >> wouldn't dream of trying to put my laptop through the strain of 70+ tabs! > > Exactly - this is case closed: "User has entirely unreasonable > expectations of workload vs hardware - should have known better, > especially at their skill level. Thrown out of office for wasting > sysadmin time". > > John I'm not having a go at you or anything but as you're clearly not > just a basic user - to put it mildly - it's on you to manage your > environment properly. If you're trying to run workloads that are > unsuitable for a 4Gb RAM budget laptop that are clearly much better > suited to 16Gb RAM+ workstations that's on you - computers aren't magic. > You should know that, and tune either your work habits or your computer > - or both. > > We at least originally weren't talking about what we feel "less > constrained by" - given the luxury of budget even a grandma who's only > computer task is one tab open on facebook for three hours would be > happier with a maxed out £5k Macbook! It would be a much, much nicer > experience. But that's so obvious it's not worth even discussing. > > Meanwhile in the boring mundane world literally millions if not billions > of decidedly middling PCs with 4Gb RAM are being used just fine for > everyday stuff including full working days. I know devs with Mac Minis > that only have 4Gb RAM and run XCode. > > "I can see Mint Ulyana, Brave and Firefox, 70 tabs open, calibre, an > assortment of libreoffice jobs, gftp, hexchat, a few terminals. > Nothing extreme. Firefox has several thousand bookmarks and the > history may go back a couple of months. The only extensions are the > standards: NoScript and UBlock." > > Yeah, you've diagnosed your own problem right there. Managed better, a > 4Gb budget laptop could do that no problem although cutting down on > simultaneous apps, open browser tabs and actually tuning your machine a > bit would help no end. > > I make no comment on your other advice (which is why I omitted it from > my reply) but will here just say it seems pretty solid to me. I'm > nowhere near as sold on fanless laptops as you but both of the machines > at the prices you mention would be very agreeable PCs to work on, and > good value. No arguments there. I actually really like the look of that > Dell 7370. I would also always try and coax a buyer into springing for > 8-16Gb RAM in a machine for sure, it is 2020 after all. > > My very well worn favourite screwdriver and can of compressed air > strongly disagree with you about cleaning laptop fans though - barely a > day goes by without me undoing a few screws, popping the back cover off > and blasting out some filthy laptop. 5 minutes top, maybe 6 if I have to > find my special Apple ones in the cupboard. What's difficult about that? > > You see I don't know if you're aware of this but you've crossed into > that difficult middle stage where you're a "Power User". Skilled and > confident enough to easily get yourself into trouble but apparently not > yet advanced enough to immediately understand or fix what you're doing > 'wrong'. > > Before I make another enemy for life I really want to reiterate I'm not > having a go at you John - I just have a bad personality so blame any > perceived slight or disdain fully on my terrible communication skills :] > And this just popped up in my newsfeed from yesterday: https://www.reviewgeek.com/54223/5-ways-that-chromebooks-are-better-than-windows-laptops/ -- Kind regards, Mark Smith juglugs.com PGP fingerprint: FE57 FF27 C090 186C BFDE EF8B 9502 6421 F69F 0742
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