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I am happy to go with the majority as I have no insight on the matter. Keep up the good work Trevor -----Original Message----- From: list <list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Gordon Henderson Sent: 26 May 2021 20:22 To: list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [LUG] Freenode (and matrix bridge) murdered by bot On Wed, 26 May 2021, Simon Avery wrote: > On Wed, 26 May 2021 at 12:03, Gordon Henderson <gordon+lug@xxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > >> My view is that since Freenode is now unreliable and unstable that >> people should move elsewhere anyway. The reasons and motives of the >> current owners and admins are still unclear to me and probably will remain so. >> > I agree. Freenode today is not what it was a couple of weeks ago. Most > of the projects I follow have moved off, either to Libera or Matrix or > elsewhere. > > I hold a dim view of today's action where they arbitrarily decided > that the word "libera" was banned in Freenode's topics. That shows > poor management and, frankly, spiteful and unprofessional administration. > > Frankly, I don't trust Freenode any longer and will likely be removing > it from my clients after at least 11 years. > > I think my preference is to move to the libera irc network, where the > #dcglug channel already exists, and perhaps bridge that to Matrix to > allow for slightly more modern clients. (Bridges are a mixed bag, but > in a low traffic channel it might work) Just to add to the confusion - earlier today the #dcglug channel was reinstated - I think 'seabass' did some asking, so for now it appears to be back to more or less what it was. However... Having done something that caused a lot of unhappiness and mis-trust once, I ask myself if I trust them to not do it again? I'm not sure I do. But - before any actions are taken by us - I really would like to ask the members here for their feedback. I do not know how many people lurk here, but if you have a view either way, please drop a line here, or to myself personally if you don't want to post (if you trust me!) and I'll keep a rough tally. I'm writing this on Wednesday evening, so lets see if we can come to a concensus by Friday evening. Gordon -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG https://mailman.dcglug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG https://mailman.dcglug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq