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Re: [LUG] Best Video hosting platform

 

On 09/04/2020 22:27, Simon Waters wrote:

Almost all the free services will put adverts either in the videos or around
them, which is fair enough at the price.

Client side fix admittedly but if you're still seeing ads on the internet in 2020 you need professional help. I know we're all adblocking mercilessly (right?) but it only takes a few seconds to instruct friends/family/clients/whomever to click one link to install for example ublock origin. Us techies owe it to the casuals - never has the pay off for 10 seconds of installation had such a colossal and long lasting reward.

I have Flickr for personal photos, they also do video, wonder if you might
have a photo service or similar that does the same you already pay for?

The Videos are teaching Aikido exercises, so not pornography...
The videos are likely to be around 2-5minutes long.
They can be mux'd to any format, but guessing mp4 is likely to be the
'best' I have just uploaded the first to YouTube because it needed to be
done, but I'm happy to look at others- I have no loyalty in that respect,
only my students will be viewing the videos...
It did take nearly 1.5hrs to upload a 4minute video (260Mb). Maybe I can
reduce the size/quality a little as its not porn!

If it does it whilst you sleep, probably easiest to let the service get on
with it unless you are pressed for time or bandwidth.

If you do have to re-encode for size you can think about it in terms of the
peak bandwidth they have when watching, I'd suggest at least 2Mbps. You can
likely get quite good video quality for Aikido at that sort of bandwidth,
unless there are a lot of people moving in shot, or a lot of scrolling camera
work in 4K. Most people can get much more than 2Mbps, and those that can't are
use to the buffering, and it won't be for too long.

I think you may find that YouTube re-encodes on the fly to whatever it's
native format is - so your original file size may not matter.
Not 100% on this, but have heard similar.

Almost everyone will re-encode video you upload.
Unless you are some sort of video editing genius this is probably for the
best, people like YouTube put a lot of work into encoding, and codecs which
can be scrolled forward and backward, with keying frames regularly spaced,
whilst taking up minimal disk space, and bandwidth, but delivered in all the
sizes they need from smart Watch to 8K cinema.


Encoding *is* rocket science - I'm an experienced encoder and have been at it for years (it's my assigned role in an old school anime rescue release group). I'm still far from being a guru and I started 20 years ago on SGI Irix monsters. This rabbit hole is bottomless! That being said, capture as high as possible - it's the luxury I don't get working from the crappest of crappest VHS raws and reverse-telecining, dedecimating and torturing into a semblance of watchability. Capture at maximum quality possible because as others have said, missing detail can't be "magicked" back in afterwards.

However running the results through a simple re-encoding tool (like handbrake) multiple times to hit the sweet spot is easy though and anyone can do it.

Youtube _categorically_ re-encode everything that is uploaded to them automatically so don't fuss over detail too much: they'll make even 4K@60fps 4:4:4 10bit HDR look like complete shit and there's nothing you can do about it.


I've worked with trying to host me own video before, and seen what getting
good across multiple browsers that "just works" (and "works well") requires,
and frankly it isn't worth the effort unless you are a professional video
hosting service.

Ironic because it was once the bandwidth costs that stops us doing this, not
the complexity, and now we have a video tag in HTML it is the complexity not
the bandwidth costs. Although then we were happy we had video working at all,
and now everyone expects it to look like Blu Ray at 4K with no buffering and CD
quality sound, starting instantly, or they move on.

Biggest problem I've seen from re-encoding is sound quality. You obviously
lose video quality and they compress it to save storage, and possibly lose
some when sending it down to you depending on bandwidth, but the big video
services are good at that, and video codecs are good at degrading gracefully.
Had various issues with sound quality at Facebook, but not so much recently
(may have been bugs sampling particular audio formats).


In my anime release group - and anywhere else doing this "properly" - the audio is a totally different job and is handled separately by someone else. That being said, re-encoding audio is super easy and computationally light compared to the horror of video. Our audio wizard mostly uses Audacity and a library of home-made scripts.


Just upload the biggest cleanest best quality video and let the hardware take
the strain as much as possible would be my general advice, you can waste a lot
of time being clever, which is probably better spent worrying about content,
quality of sound recording, marketing etc. My professional sound guy friend
said pretty much the same, you can do all sorts of things in the sound room,
but you can't recover things that never got caught by the microphone, and
getting good clean recording saves a lot of time later.

Seems Anthony's biggest problems is that his internet upload speed is just very slow to be honest - there's no magic bullet for that either except "buy moar internets". And I think he's pretty rural so that's probably not even an option unfortunately.

Still, 90 minutes to upload 260Mb, yikes. He'll have to turn off his bittorrent porn downloads next time, it'll speed things right up :]

Also, Flickr are still alive?!


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