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On 08/12/2019 15:34, maceion@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
On 08/12/2019 12:57, Neil wrote:When someone learns that I use Linux instead of Windows or Mac, I am often asked why, so far, only a small percentage of people are actively using it if, as claimed, it is a superior OS. Also, sometimes I am asked if I would be willing to teach someone how to use it. So far I have found an excuse not to. I believe that some of the list members do in fact give Linux training. If so I would be interested to hear their thoughts on it. To my mind there is a lot involved and I would want to do a 'proper job'. Is this lack of training facilities one thing holding back the uptake of Linux? NeilDear folks 20191208 I concur to teaching Linux to those who want to know. Edited reply based on a previous one by martin.gautier@xxxxxxxxxxxxx I regularly roll out Linux ( Xubuntu or Linux Mint [LTS versions] & always LIVE KNOPPIX for banking)) to my "Pupils" at library and U3A; when they are fed up with Windows [usually update problems] OR due age of computer (no more MS support or security needs) and they do not want to buy another for their modest needs. About 7 folk over 6 years. They are generally older folk (60+, 70+ and 80+ [my best pupil is 82 who took to computing at 79 like a duck learning to swim]).
May I suggest;-1 Check Linux compatibility for their hardware; it would be annoying for all concerned to show them Linux and get them enthusiastic about it, only to find their printer/scanner/SatNav won't cooperate. In my case updating the SatNav is a .... as the proprietary app won't work in WINE and USB in the Windows 7 VM doesn't like it very much - OK at all.
Training consists of: 0 I have replaced Windows with an alternative system more suited to you! 1 - there's the start button 2 - there's your menu of apps: LibreOffice, Firefox/Chrome, [Thunderbird rarely used, as most are used to web browser email Shortcuts always placed in taskbar and on screen. 3 - this is how you print (Set up printer for them)
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My 7.1 They mostly want to use computer for email, browsing (especially for doctor surgery appointments etc.) video to grandchildren, I find Google Chromium with use of Google Hangouts works well as grandchildren tend to have Android devices. Usually need to set up a gmail email account for them for this use of "G-Hangouts"
I find Linux' Skype client to work well for video conferencing.
7.5 My way "If you use Linux, then ANY call about your computer or Microsoft or Amazon Prime is a scam; just put it down" Some say this is best help as they get a lot of scam "This is Microsoft .." calls are received up here in Palatinates.
My way if it's a 'you have a virus / are spreading spam' scam call, or any kind of scam about the Internet or your computer.
One very simple question. 'How did you /legally/ obtain my phone number simply from my IP address?' as I know it's not possible without a warrant to the ISP from the police, /maybe/ a lawyer. The last time I asked the reply was a *click* and I muttered 'Thought so' and put the phone down :)
8. OT. Also update old Windows computers (7, 8.1) to Win10 for those who cannot do it themselves. This has been a topic these last 3 months. Folk in their late 70s with a possible only 4 ~5 year life span do not want to buy new computers.
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