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On 18/03/19 21:53, Eion MacDonald wrote: > On 18/03/2019 16:59, Michael Everitt wrote: >> On 18/03/19 12:19, maceion@xxxxxxxxx wrote: >>> On 18/03/2019 12:11, Neil wrote: >>>> I would also discourage the idea of dual booting Linux with Windows, >>> Yes. However I ONLY dual boot with an *External* USB hard disc or USB >>> key. I do not introduce a dual boot on 'native hard disc' inside machine. >>> Much easier if they have an extra machine they can devote to Linux, but >>> some must retain for example a Windows only bookkeeping program or >>> accounts program for their records. >>> (15 years of accounts can not easily be discarded) >>> >>> >> Have you tried GnuCash yet Eion?! >> >> > Accounts programs used by me in Linux: > > GnuCash (for UK company accounts including VAT) . Comment: works but > major hassle as no "real chart of accounts" for UK systems, the > available one has problems as it does 'properly' segregate VAT items. > However it has be manually sorted out to get current VAT payable (or > returned) by referring to last totals and manually doing difference. > > KMyMoney: used for personal accounts and found to be very good for this > (No company account or VAT problems in personal accounts). > > GnuCash would do personal accounts OK, but not used for that. > > Accounts programs in Windows from 98 to Windows 7 : Company accounts > with VAT: Quickbooks 2010. This failed on upgrade to Windows 10 because > it does not write VAT totals to PDF file correctly. So VAT record is > wrong, handle by extracting data to spreadsheet (MS EXCEL ONLY). > Quickbooks will not allow re-installation or re-validation of old > versions. This was major trigger for me to really work on GnuCash. > Previously I had kept copy of personal accounts on KMyMoney . > > Reserve copy of accounts on Windows 10 was old sunset version of MS > Moneyplus Home and Business, it still works OK. > > Problem of transferring from say Quickbooks or Quicken on Windows to a > Linux system is a major hassle, as it does not correctly transfer or > weed out duplicate transactions. > > Windows 7 and 10 used HMRC PAYE RPI program but it is 32 bit code. Only > tested by HMRC against 32 bit Ubuntu! > > Problem with HMRC accounts: Ubuntu 32 bit does HMRC PAYE RPI well, and > I keep a 32 bit USB Ubuntu just to access my PAYE/Tax files. > > HMRC PAYE RPI does not work with openSUSE Leap 15, 64 bit, hence the 32 > bit Ubuntu kept. > > As I ceased/closed my company to trading in January 2018 and removed > from active company by 'voluntary strike off' at Companies House this > year in January 2019. I no longer need VAT handling accounts except for > record purposes. (I have full set on spreadsheets. in case of any problem). > > I looked at other free and paid accounts systems in both Linux and > Windows, but as I originally got into accounts on Windows with an > inherited Windows Quickbooks when I did a charity's accounts as > treasurer many years ago (before I started my own company) I just stayed > with Windows and Quickbooks. > > The lack of an actual free accounts package that works with UK/EU VAT in > Linux is why on setting up others as their own one man companies, I have > recommended Linux but told them to use a on-line accounts package; OR a > Windows accounts package. > There is reams and reams of this Linux accounts problems in comments on > Munich's Linux adventure. > > They had to re-install MS Windows & MS Excel for accounts department. > > I feel the lack of a proper UK accounts chart and set up in GnuCash > keeps Linux back from one man/small company use of Linux. > > Sorry for rant, but it is a very sore 'scratching point' with me. > > Paid software for Linux account might work but i did not go down that route. > > If you know how to get GnuCash working with UK VAT and VAT reporting I > would eagerly accept any comments, to improve myself and my systems. > > Kindest regards, > > Eion MacDonald > > > > Thanks for that Eion. My experience is limited to *nix use of Ledger and GnuCash or those using Quickbooks and Sage (these days their online/cloud versions of). The former concern only US entities, the latter UK! Cheers, Michael/veremitz.
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