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404k up with several people is always going to be huge bummer. Especially if anyone cares to take lots of pictures on holiday, god forbid. I *think* i am happy with several Mikrotik hAP ac lites spread around https://www.prazefarm.co.uk/ with /queue tree add max-limit=1448k name=Upload parent=AAISP queue=default More info: https://natalian.org/2017/08/20/Choosing_Mikrotik_over_Ubiquiti/ max-limit=1448k offers congestion control for the ~1.5 we used to get up. It seems go down over time https://speed.prazefarm.co.uk/ until someone cares to do some maintenance on the teeny tiny copper line. It basically makes the line somewhat usable when someone is making an upload. Thought it's not perfect. :/ -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG https://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq