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Ah, makes sense, maybe it is better for new users to be presented with a front end that closely matches what they are used to, menu in bottom corner (for windows) and a icon bar thing for mac users, which can be replicated on linux too or something similar. With mint you can download either LMDE (mint debian) Cinnamon or Mate, so they work out at < 4gb. Paul On 22/01/18 15:00, Eion MacDonald wrote: > > > On 22/01/18 14:42, Paul Sutton wrote: >> esp for 1 distro, > > As long as only one desktop environment is selected in ISO > > Full DE selection e.g. KDE, Genome, XFCE etc on one DVD is bigger than > 4GB. I tend to use 8GB minimum USB for full ISO download > -- http://www.zleap.net diaspora : zleap@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Torbay Tech Jam http://torbaytechjam.org.uk Next Tech jam 2nd Saturday of the month -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG https://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq