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On 25/07/2016 10:13, Rod Sheaff wrote: > Hello John - good to (virtually) meet you. > > So well hidden has the existing use of Linux at PU been behind the > 'MicroSoft please' user-facing material that your message came as a > (pleasant) surprise and a revelation to me (and I have been at PU for 10 > years). As Andy says, now we'd like to get similar recognition on the > user-facing side. One thing must surely be to built up support resources > for Linux users, a bit at a time. It's great that you exist but it's a > bit onerous for you (I would imagine) and unreasonable for one person to > have to de everything. Perhaps we can find ways to add. > > Look forward to meeting you soon via LUG and/or PU-LUG. > > Rod > > > On 21/07/16 21:24, John Horne wrote: >> Apologies for the delay in replying; lots going on and only just >> starting to catch up with mail. >> >> On Mon, 2016-06-20 at 14:17 +0100, Rod Sheaff wrote: >>> Do any of you work at Plymouth Uni, or have recently? >>> >> Yes, I work there. I am the Linux sysadmin for the Uni central servers. >> (We also had some UNIX servers up until a few years ago, but they got >> replaced with Linux.) >> >>> After years of agitating along the 'Why don't you use open source?' >>> line I have been invited to discuss this with one of the IT honchos >>> so would like to brief myself as well as I can first. >>> >> The Uni does use open source, in fact their website runs on Debian >> servers (in total 6 of them, and another 4 for development). The >> inbound email goes through CentOS servers (until a short while ago the >> outbound did as well). In addition there are about 20 or so other >> servers doing various tasks. All are running CentOS, bar one >> development server running RHEL and two others which run Ubuntu. We >> have run Linux since the 90's (I know because I introduced it into the >> central services)! >> >> However, this is all from the non-academic/non-teaching side. I >> couldn't say anything about 'teaching' Linux. >> >> I would be interested who the 'IT honcho' is, but I suspect you're not >> going to say :-) >> >> >> >> >> John. >> >> -- >> ---------------------------------------------------- >> John Horne Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 >> Plymouth University, UK >> ________________________________ >> [http://www.plymouth.ac.uk/images/email_footer.gif]<http://www.plymouth.ac.uk/worldclass> >> >> >> This email and any files with it are confidential and intended solely >> for the use of the recipient to whom it is addressed. If you are not >> the intended recipient then copying, distribution or other use of the >> information contained is strictly prohibited and you should not rely >> on it. If you have received this email in error please let the sender >> know immediately and delete it from your system(s). Internet emails >> are not necessarily secure. While we take every care, Plymouth >> University accepts no responsibility for viruses and it is your >> responsibility to scan emails and their attachments. Plymouth >> University does not accept responsibility for any changes made after >> it was sent. Nothing in this email or its attachments constitutes an >> order for goods or services unless accompanied by an official order form. > 1 It may seem odd, but any use of Microsoft end products (Outlook, MS Office, interconnecting bits etc.) should be proclaimed on the user's instructions and terms of service published on Uni website as based on back end Linux servers Some such text as: " It is to be noted that the 'user facing Microsoft products' (e.g. MS Office. MS Outlook) are totally dependent on them operating over and on the University's Linux operating servers. The background servers are Linux system servers. The University encourages the use of Open source Software (Gnu/Linux, etc.) and saving in Open Document Format are required for government interaction and long term storage by the EU. Any student wishing to avail her/himself of a linux system or software may contact ..... and the scores listed on : (page xx of support website)" While this does not force or make positive the use of Linux etc, it means any staff of students cannot be 'unaware' of Linux availability. PS in my day to day work, I use MS products internally but save all long term legal documents on Libre Office.org file formats due to EU legal requirement. these are what I would produce if forced to take to court. No defence if a closed source document cannot be accessed due to no longer used machines or formats. -- regards Eion MacDonald -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG https://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq