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Re: [LUG] gentoo resurrection

 

On 19/07/16 21:42, mr meowski wrote:
> On 19/07/16 21:05, M. J. Everitt wrote:
>> On 19/07/16 20:48, mr meowski wrote:
>> How old is old? I'm running a moderately vintage gentoo install here
>> now, but I've found all too often that if you get major
>> package/dependency breakage, you are better off starting back from a
>> stage3 and either copying your make.conf and/or world files over, and
>> starting afresh. Gentoo really is a rolling distro, and not to keep
>> up-to-date does cause its problems.
>>
>> Whilst not a 'guru' or expert at all, I do circulate with the gentoo
>> devs (a strange bunch, I'll admit) .. but I think they too, whilst
>> arguing that it -should- be possible, might also agree that starting
>> afresh would be a better option.
>>
>> However, I'm game for a shot .. what is portage complaining about, and
>> are you a systemd fan or ardently against? (marmite issue, I know!).
>> pastebin/bpaste works :)
> Ah ha! I was secretly hoping that you might reply - I was sure that I'd
> seen you mentioning using Gentoo in production before. Bit nefarious of
> me - I've posted RPi questions before effectively hoping that Gordon
> would pipe up with a canonical answer :]
>
> The instance is my single oldest surviving Linux install from way back
> in London and I'm (stupidly) slightly emotionally attached to the old
> fellow as I leant many, many things from running it. Once upon a time it
> was a physical machine and since then survived migration to two
> different computers, conversion to a VM (twice), went from x86 to x64
> and from normal to testing. It's like an old knackered pet that I can't
> bear to see put down. All the data I want is safe and as a VM it's
> snapshotted of course so I can attempt any amount of otherwise dangerous
> rescue attempts on it bit I'd really like to keep the "same" instance
> alive, at least in spirit even if it's a veritable ship of Theseus at
> this point.
>
> About a year (?) ago systemd choked an "emerge world" and I was never
> able to untangle the mess, despite finding numerous threads from others
> who evidently had fixed it. It is already a systemd* box but something
> related to early systemd upgrades back when it was a bit unstable went
> badly wrong. Let me fire it up a minute!
>
> Thanks Michael :]
>
> Cheers
>
> * as for systemd, I'm pragmatically ambivalent about it - I've learnt to
> use it no problem as it's not going anywhere on Linux it seems. In this
> case I'm perfectly happy to keep it systemd as trying to back it out to
> OpenRC in a previous rescue attempt on a clone went very poorly indeed...
The folks in #gentoo on IRC can be quite helpful too (troubleshot a
initramfs/bios/boot confusion where the SATA was in IDE mode once) but
you have to pick your timing.

Let me know where things are at, and I'll see if I can think of
anything. It could be a long road, but who knows ..

MJE

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