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Re: [LUG] linux child protection

 

Hi Guys

In youth work we call this empowerment! The concept is that at some
point you need to empower children and young people to make decisions.
The age that you allow them to make those decisions depends on them as
a person. I agree with folks here they can get around whatever you try
to block so don't try. Talk to them when they're of an age to make a
decision, give them the tools and let them make the decision. You'll
see them fly!

On 28 March 2014 23:53, Julian Hall <linux@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On 28/03/14 23:45, Paul Sutton wrote:
>
>
> On 28/03/14 23:39, Julian Hall wrote:
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> On 28/03/14 21:45, Kevin Peat wrote:
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> On 28 March 2014 17:03:15 GMT, Gordon Henderson <gordon+lug@xxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
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>> On Fri, 28 Mar 2014, Tom wrote:
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>>>  As my daughters age the missuses requests for some kind of blocking
>>>  increases.
>>>  Any recommendations - pcs and android devices!
>>
>> How about education and no unsupervised internet access?
>>
>> Gordon
>
>
> You are spot on re. education but any filtering/supervision is just doomed
> to failure just like Cameron's firewall. I used NetNanny [on Windows] with
> our kids 10 years ago just to limit PC time, but in the age of families
> having multiple PC's, tablets and phones [as have their friends] you have no
> chance of stopping them doing whatever they want.
>
> Amusing tale about Net Nanny... <pauldaniels> You'll like this.. not a lot,
> but you'll like it </pauldaniels>
>
> I used to work for an ISP who gave out free copies of Net Nanny to
> customers.  However when customers started installing it we had some odd
> problems.  They couldn't get their email, access their own websites, and our
> website, the browser default wouldn't load.  It took a while as all other
> Internet access was perfectly fine, but the penny dropped when we realised
> all the affected customers had installed Net Nanny.  The ISP's name was one
> of the banned words in Net Nanny, so once you installed it you could forget
> any hope of accessing servers on our network *head->desk*  I haven't named
> the ISP to spare the blushes of the astonishingly stupid, but if you think
> of all the UK ISPs I'm sure you can think of one whose name may fall foul of
> an over-eager parental access control software.
>
> Julian
>
>
>
> I am waiting for the reaction if they block the barenakedladies (a pop group
> or something ) website and wonder if they do,  and effectively brand them
> some sort of porn site, if they will get a nice letter from them asking to
> correct the issue,  a letter from their lawyer or a lawsuit for defamation
> without all the niceties before hand.
>
> Lets hope they build some sort of Contextual AI in to all this,  otherwiser
> there could be real problems.
>
> Paul
>
>
> Already have been, one game update file had the letters S, E and X in
> sequence.. the filter blocked it.  The words tip and iceberg occur..
>
> Julian
>
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