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Maybe I'm missing something, but isn't a cut-down Ubuntu called Debian? Debian lets you install LXDE or XFCE4 or whatever you want, easily. I'm sure I'm missing something -- but what does Lubuntu or ToriOS do that Debian doesn't? i386 support? -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq