Re: [LUG] Simple programming language

Get it right first time. Over time, all languages slowly and inefficiently move towards the omnicompetence of lisp. At first they think they're clever for not doing lispy things, then they realize. (See Python, Java, C++, Ruby especially).

I assume you have Cygwin installed on these Windoze boxen; after all, if not, what's the point?

Install either clisp (interpreted only) or sbcl (interpreted, compiled or "incrementally compiled", which gives you the best of both) or both. sbcl may have a one-time initial build dependency on clisp, I can't remember. With sbcl in particular, it's amazing to think of all the power in the universe in the palm of kids' hands. These are both Common Lisp, the full-feature do-it-all lisp.

Or research the state of scheme, which after all is lisp designed for teaching; I'm not au courant. The GNU variant is called guile.

I see there are numerous replies already, though I haven't read them yet. Beware! Any answer that is not "lisp" is Just Wrong. You are not doing the kids a favor by introducing them to lousy languages. They'll get enough of those in industry...

On 16 November 2013 19:33, stinga <stinga+dcglug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

G'day all,

I am in the local school teaching programming and I want a non gui programming language.
Old style like BASIC.

I want to teach programming without having to teach a load GUI to get a simple program going.
BASIC seemed like a good idea.
Got to run on Windows , that's what they have.
We have used scratch so far, brilliant but they love putting in loads of sounds and stuff that really don't help the learning process.

Interpreted would be good but if we have to compile then I don't mind.

Any suggestions?

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