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What?! Man, I live a few miles down the road from Holsworthy and literally a few hundred yards from the local (remote?) exchange and there's no sign of fibre out here... boo hoo... My draytek router is currently connecting as (or so it reports) PPPoE anyway, so I'm guessing that I won't need a new router - mind you, I was thinking of changing to a pfSense box with an ADSL modem (DrayTek Vigor 120)... The damn phone wire comes through the &*(£$ window frame, so if someone's coming out to fit a new socket, whether I like it or not, then I may as well get that cable moved in readiness... -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gordon Henderson Sent: 13 November 2013 10:18 To: list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [LUG] Fibre broadband On Wed, 13 Nov 2013, Neil Winchurst wrote: > In Holsworthy we are getting fibre to the cabinet set up. It is well > on the way, the new cabinets are installed and BT have reached the > testing stage. In fact the latest news is that it should be ready next > month. So I have been looking it up on Google etc. > > I am now a bit puzzled. My current ISP does provide it and in fact the > monthly payment is less than I pay now. However they have a one off > set up fee of £102. The note about it says that this includes > 'arranging for an engineer to visit my house to install the service'. > > I have looked at other ISP's and, while prices and set ups vary, there > does not seem to be any mention of sending anyone to the house or any > payment for it. > > Also, a bit annoying, some of them want to set up a 'package' which > includes the phone rental, calls etc. And, if I don't want to have > this, they will charge extra for my not having it included. > > So at the moment I am very confused. Can anyone clarify the situation > for me please? BT are trialling self-installs, but for the most part, they (BT OpenReach) send an engineer to your house, change out the existing NTE5 for a new one which includes a whole house filter AND they install a modem as part of the package. You need to provide a router as the modem presents a PPPoE connection on Ethernet which the router has to deal with. And personally, having seen the utter shit that some people do to their own installs, wiring, connections, etc. I think its a good thing. For now. As for the "bundles" - that's the holy-grail for "utility companies" - provide everything from phone to broadband, TV, gas, electricity, etc. I don't agree with this and like to pick and choose, but it's up to you. You do not have to take the bundles, you can put your money elsewhere - its your money - spend it as you wish. Gordon -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq