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> Vim is a standard part of my OS. Emacs is not loaded as standard on Debian > (but vim-tiny is, go-figure). Csh was standard on SunOS. It was good enough > for me 25 years ago, so I use it today. Yeah, Debian came pretty close to being an official GNU thing at one point, but yeah.. no real GNU distro exists, so things are muddled. -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq