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Hi All, Problem: Quite a lot of these "warrants" are obtained from relatively inexperienced JPs, they who have been around a bit longer ask too many questions. Solution: Publish the conviction rates (ie where goods or information obtained as a result of each search result in a conviction) of each magistrate, then we can see who are the soft touches, and who are the cynical old gits. Should make interesting reading, then we can identify those JPs in need of re-training. Don't hold your breath. Regards etc, Ray. >----Original Message---- >From: sweetwatergeek@xxxxxxxxx >Date: 26/06/2013 9:53 >To: <list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Subj: Re: [LUG] OT surveillance > >On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Paul Sutton wrote: >> I agree, I was under the impression they were more interested in who >> communicates with whom, rather than the content of the communications. > >Both. In some cases, they've collected the former (technically called >'metadata'). It's still a huge breach of privacy: you can find out a >lot about someone by being able to see who they communicate with, >especially if you're also able to see who these people then >communicate with. > >> the killing may have been prevented >(...) >> what happened could have been prevented > >With hindsight everything is obvious and thus it may seem that things >are easy to prevent. That is wrong though. Bruce Schneier wrote about >this better than I can put it: > >http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/05/intelligence_an.html > >> If GCHQ / NSA are acting outside the law > >I'm not sure if they are. I'm worried they aren't - from what I've >read it seems that they have proper warrants for the surveillance they >perform. That makes it kind of scary. > >Martijn. > >-- >The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG >http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list>FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq > -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq