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On Fri, 2012-10-12 at 13:56 +0100, Rob Beard wrote: > On 12/10/12 13:41, Simon Waters wrote: > > On 12/10/12 12:24, Rob Beard wrote: > >> Hi folks, > >> > >> I've been having a look at setting up an IPCop box with DansGuardian. > >> > >> During my search on how to get it installed on IPCop I came across this: > >> > >> http://dansguardian.org/?page=copyright2 > >> > >> DansGuardian 2 is: > >> > >> - *licensed under the GPL version 2 with permission to link to OpenSSL* > >> - Open Source > >> - Free Software where 'Free' means Freedom > >> - freely (no cost) downloadable from this site for non-commercial use > >> - freely (no cost) downloadable from this site for general purpose unix > >> distributions like FreeBSD, Debian, Fedora, Ubuntu, etc > >> - not freely downloadable from this site for installation by 3rd parties > >> charging for installation or support > >> - *not freely downloadable from this site for commercial use* > >> - a registered trade mark of Daniel Barron > >> - copyright Daniel Barron > >> > >> The thing I was wondering, it's released under the GPL 2 but the author > >> of the software appears to be adding additional restrictions to the > >> software when downloaded from his site... basically it can't be used for > >> commercial use. > > > > Yes, he is asking you to pay for your copy downloaded from his site. > > > > This is allowed under the GPL. > > > > Ahh I see, I got the impression that on his site he was selling licences. > > > The download license costs per site are as follows: > > 50 pounds sterling ($89 US or EURO) for 1-99 computers per unix-like server > 75 pounds sterling ($130 US or EURO) for 100-249 computers per unix-like > server > > and so on going up in increments of Â25 to Â50 ish. > > > Once you have a copy then you have the full GPLv2 rights to give your > > copy away. > > Fair enough. I presume this must be how distros do it then. > > > > > But note the obligation to supply source code is on you, not on them, if > > you follow this path. > > > > Yep, I presume this relates to all GPL'd software, if someone > distributes it then they should make the source code available? > > >> As it happens I'm not looking to use it for commercial use, but it seems > >> odd that it's restricted this way. > > > > I think it is the presentation of the restriction that is odd not the > > behaviour. e.g. Putting this presentation on the site with the licensing > > details. > > > > Redhat subscriptions cover getting updates to GPLv2 software (amongst > > other bits, and other free software). > > > > Centos is basically someone giving their copy of Redhat's distribution > > away by using those freedoms. > > > > The odd bit is the free for non-commercial use. So you can download it > > as yourself, decide it does what your company wants and sell your copy > > to your company that is interested in it. e.g. You could become the > > equivalent of Centos. > > > > Ahh okay. How I understand it Centos take the source, remove any Redhat > bits and re-compile it and re-release it along with source? > > > Hopefully people will just pay up if they want it for commercial use. > > Yep, it's been a while since I looked into content filtering, I gather > that other commercial products aren't cheap so I guess even at 50 quid > for a company to use it doesn't break the bank. > > > If he removed the "GPLv2" reference from the website, and included a > > note saying "Parts of this software are distributed under the GPLv2" in > > the CD case he sends you when you pay for it like some Cisco routers, > > would you think it odd? > > > > Not so much no. It seems to be a common occurrence these days with > hardware to have a slip of paper in there or something in the manual > with the GPL and details of how to obtain the source. > > Rob > As an aside to this I didn't know you could do this http://www.openlogic.com/resources-library/ use a tool to find OSS in embedded in your system ! could be an eye opener for some companies... I bet the Ebook at the bottom makes good bed-time reading as well. ( I came across this when researching Imagemagic for a batch image manipulation ) It's so easy to get sidetracked... -- ________________________________________________________________________ Regards Kevin Lucas Minions Post Master(Sub) Skype minions_shop www.minionsbandb.co.uk www.tearooms.minionsbandb.co.uk FaceBook Minions_shop Po House, Minions, Liskeard Cornwall PL14 5LE 01579363386 -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq