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Thanks Martijn, I will bear it in mind. Currently with Orange PAYG, and have a month to figure out the best option. I have previously been asked this sort of thing when leaving a mobile provider, so will be alert for it. I doubt I'm an important customer, but I think even with PAYG they prefer to have you paying them money than the competition even if the margins on it are less. Simon -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq