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Looking at the novatech site one of the bare bones systems has a ati radeon graphics card, a google on the card finds this page http://www.hardocp.com/news/2011/03/08/direction_radeon_graphics_in_ubuntu_1104 now as this mentions DRM i was wondering what this meant in the CONTEXT of a graphics card,. I know DRM usually means Digital rights management, however perhaps in this case it's different looking back at Novatech the related PC is here: http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/prods/barebones/Novatech/BB-2554GB.html#sp7 for 149 it seems a good deal Paul -- Paul Sutton Cert SLPS (Open) http://www.zleap.net Open Mic nights - Wednesday 8pm to 11pm (14+) Free entry Breakin' Ground - Street dance for young people (8+) Wednesday 6pm (starts May 11th) The Lighthouse,26 Esplanade Road, Paignton 01803 411 812 or e-mail info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx for more info. 17th September 2011 - Software freedom day -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq