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On 21/08/10 02:11, Julian Hall wrote:
On 20/08/2010 22:07, Simon Waters wrote:Fair point, however I'm referring to Flash content I actually want/need to see. I'm thinking in particular of some websites I use that display their search results in Flash. Yes I know it's not a clever idea, but they're unlikely to change just because one user (me) tells them it is. Also one of my main uses for the PC lately is genealogy and a lot of those websites currently use Flash applets to display documents such as census returns - the idea being they can allow you to zoom in and out etc and can control how you view it. Those kinds of sites I have to use 32bit Firefox for because 64bit doesn't like Flash. However if they redesigned those sites using HTML5 as Tom suggested hopefully that problem would go away. Question though, can you perform a function in HTML5 like 'display document and allow user to zoom in and out and move around it'?On 20/08/10 18:10, Julian Hall wrote:On 20/08/2010 17:53, Simon Waters wrote:I would try not to use it, but too many sites these days are Flash heavyTry not to use flash, something like NoScript will mean you only runsthe bits of flash you want to, so less chance of the bugs annoying you.or even worse - Flash only - unfortunately sometime simply boycotting them is not an option.It isn't boycotting, I'm suggesting instead of running every application web designers throw at you, you pick the ones you want. I do it with the 32-bit Adobe plugin using NoScript, life is too short for yet another browser going slow because the page runs a zillion little applications only one of which I'm interested in.Julian
The problem would go away?The problem is not so much Flash as bad 'design'. A web site should allow a 'customer' to access online services that a company wants to offer. Most Flash merely shows off the design skills of some numpty with too much self esteem and little interest in either giving the customer what they want or putting forward the companies ethos. HTML5 may continue this problem where you have to sit through 5 minutes of marketing crap to get to click on a link to watch another 5 minutes of crap until eventually you either give up or finally find an e-mail/phone or contact form (html) that you can ask a question on that is not in any of the demonstration of some idiots ability to miss the point completely. It seem to be empiracally proved that the ability to create flash content and the ability to to create an easily usable web site are mutually exclusive.
As for display document an allow user to zoom in and out etc - you can do that in html already - no need to wait for html5 and some idiot to want to 'express themselves' !
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