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Andrew in HCS was shut, so it will have to wait until Tuesday I guess now (pesky bank holiday monday) Michael was in Alpha PC though and has popped up one of the posters. He's another old school friend as it happens, bet you can't guess which group of friends lived in the computer room every break time at school, huh ;) -- John Williams My linux blog of notes and guides http://subbass.blogspot.com/ -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html