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Re: [LUG] Old PC for toddlers playgroup - Exmouth

 

On Fri, 2010-01-29 at 19:31 +0000, Rob Beard wrote:
> Simon Robert wrote:
> > why worry about the terms of the licence. Install virtualbox and use the
> > licence number on the side of the machine or the side of the dead
> > machine. if you need to find a new copy of windows borrow an install
> > disc or download a copy from pirate bay. It's not like you've stolen a
> > copy as the licence would otherwise be unused.
> >   
> Because it's a business presumably, it's not as if it's a home user who 
> would get away with it.  It only takes the Business Software Alliance 
> (who I hold in the same regard as PRS) to investigate and make an 
> example of the nursery, i.e. fines, plus the cost of a license to boot.
> 
> I don't think we should be promoting piracy on the list, even if it's 
> only technical piracy (I know it's silly that you can't transfer the 
> license, but that is Microsoft, if you don't agree to the EULA then 
> don't use it, same as if you don't agree to the GPL, don't use it).
> 
> There is also the fact that a lot of the time, the license keys on the 
> side of the machines don't actually work.  My wife has got an IBM 
> Thinkpad with XP Home, when I came to reinstalling it from an OEM 
> Windows XP Home disc, it wouldn't accept the key, despite the fact it 
> was a legitimate key which was stuck to the machine.  Nowadays the 
> majority of pre-installed machines have a mechanism where the BIOS is 
> locked into the copy of Windows, there are some exceptions however such 
> as when my Dad upgraded from Vista to Windows 7 and HP sent a valid key 
> which he had to use to activate Windows.  In the odd cases where they 
> key is valid, chances are Windows is already activated to a specific 
> hardware set and changing the hardware will require re-activation and a 
> bit of explaining to Microsoft.
> > There is quite a lot of educational software for linux, but the stuff
> > they're used to is probably not among it. There is edubuntu which might
> > be worth a look. So linux and wine is an idea, or linux and crossover
> > office. Crossover Office has a trial version and may well run stuff wine
> > won't, or would be difficult to set up with wine. You could try both and
> > might at the end find that crossover is worth Â34 (maybe if you
> > contacted codeweavers, who make it, they might cut you a deal seeing as
> > what you'd be using it for). Crossover is really easy to use. Maybe
> > edubuntu with crossover installed.
> >   
> Yep, with the beauty of having a trial version available, if it does 
> work then Â34 is going to be cheaper than a one off copy of Windows.
> 
> It's a shame it's over in Exmouth otherwise I'd have happily gone over 
> with my laptop and given the stuff a try on Wine.
> 
> Rob
> 
> 
if its the same machine is one actually transfering the licence? If I
need XP, but don't have a disc and then download it from pirate bay and
use the licence on the box (I've done this a few times and it's worked)
isn't it legal as its the licence that's been bought, not a particular
(identical) instance of the software?

Simon


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