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Just found this: http://www.psixpda.com/ The company is owned by an ex-Psion engineer. Having contacted them, they are offering two versions (either Windows XP pro or Ubuntu (I assume UNR), both at Â499.99, which seems a bit pricey. I might be interested if the price was lower, as I need something that will slip into a pocket, but has a qwerty keyboard (albeit a little small for serious typing) Phil -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html