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Rob Beard wrote: > > Sounds to me like bloody lazy developers. Nah it is a management problem. Either you write web apps because you want independence, or you don't. There is little point in writing web applications that are heavily tied to IE in a corporate environment, since you might as well have made a native Windows application which is easier and cheaper. There is some case for web apps that work better with your current desktop environment, I did that once with Java Apps which had plugins to work with MS Office. But that was very much do small tight integration with desktop tools in use, so that they could do things like address letters in Word using the Java applications database. Developers will typically do as little as they can get away with, laziness in developers isn't necessarily a bad thing. The MOD IE6 claim is rather depressing, since IE6 has serious security issues that probably will never be fixed. Might get fixed if they are actively exploited in the wild, but I'd expect other countries would have the resources to figure out what is wrong with IE6 and do a targeted attack if needed. Let us hope this is some sort of secured network environment, and not surfing the web at large. The kicker at the moment is performance. Javascript heavy web apps are running an order or magnitude quicker in FF/Opera/Safari/Chrome than they do in IE7. IE 8 is a little faster than IE7 but still totally outclassed by the other common browsers. -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html