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On Friday 16 January 2009 16:37, Paul Sutton wrote: ... > Try suggesting adult education tutors they do Linux courses or courses > in say open office, you end up getting told that there is no demand, or I spoke to some people from a local college/adult education thing and they were VERY interested in FLOSS - alas I lost their details. > they are not interested if we know the stats then any requests can be > backed up with real data. I'm afraid there is no way of getting real data. Who knows how many machines out there are spoofing MS/IE to get onto web sites. Everyone uses Windows: except in my circles where there windows is maybe 5% of the installs - and thats not including dclugers but no-one would ask for an Open Office course because they either don't need open office or if they do they don't need training. Thats one of the joys of FLOSS - you don't NEED to ask others for help. I may be over-optimistic but I don't think we're too far from a tipping point but its hard to tell as there are too many vested interests that will loose fortunes by admitting any real advancement of linux - until it just happens. I have a feeling evolution will win out here - people will pay to do MS and Office, and others will do Linux and data processing/management and gain financially and in their ability to do something and not just write about it and in twenty years time you'll be showing youngsters how people used to write 'documents' that were based around a thing called paper and laughing like the Smash aliens. That is if the economy ever recovers of course.... Tom te tom te tom -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html