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Re: [LUG] OpenSource, Devon County Council

 

Paul Sutton writes:
> Charlie BT wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
>> Paul Sutton
>> Sent: 22 December 2008 16:46
>> To: list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: [LUG] OpenSource, Devon County Council
>> jon.davey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>>> Paul Sutton writes:
>>>> Henry Bremridge wrote:
>>>>> I have been advised that Devon County Council has 6782 Microsoft Office 
>>>>> licenses and currently have no plans to look at OpenOffice<snip>
>>>>> Seems a bit of money waster to me.  
>>>>>
>>>>> My initial idea was to write to: local MPs, local Councillors and ask them 
>>>>> what steps they were taking to save money. But I suspect that we also need to 
>>>>> get the local press involved as well. Christmas is probably a bad time to 
>>>>> raise it: maybe in the new year. If anyone has any ideas then please advise
>>>>>       
>>>> Good point there come 2009 i intent to write to local MP adn councillor 
>>>> and ask why OSS is not under consideration, given the current economic 
>>>> climate.  
>>>>
>>>> We need more public events,  so thats another plan for 2009,  get the 
>>>> general public along to Lug type meets and explain the alternatives,  
>>>> then ask them to write to their MP / Councillor asking why is taxpayers 
>>>> money being spent on something when there are alternatives to this 
>>>> software,  that are free (as in freedom) but from the taxpayers 
>>>> perspective at no cost,   
>>>>
>>>> the money saved could perhaps then be spent on in the case of toilets 
>>>> keeping them open all year and upgrade them to 21st century standards, 
>>>> or perhaps repair some of the potholes in the road. 
>>> Paul

>>> ...I know that this isn't on the same level but I have recently been trying 
>>> to get my stepdaughter to mention Linux to her school teacher. She is 
>>> convinced, however, that they don't have any paticular systm on the 
>>> 'workstations' that they use at school. I guess that the systems have been 
>>> personalised to an extent so that when she logs in she's met with 'Hillfort 
>>> Primary School Computer Sysyem-Please Log In' or something similar. I have 
>>> tried to explain to her that underneath that the computer is more that 
>>> likely a Windows system but it makes no differance to her. I have Ubuntu 
>>> installed on the laptop that she uses at home and I'm hoping that if I keep 
>>> onto her she will mention it. But at the levil she uses it I don't suppose 
>>> she can see why a different system will make any differance. THat's not to 
>>> say her teacher won't appreciat the differance though. Any suggestions for 
>>> making a suggestion from a lowly parent have some kudos that might make Mrs 
>>> Teacher sit up and take me seriousily?
>>> CHeers, JOn 

>>> It depends on how "open minded" people are, and in some cases how much 
>>> time they have, however on school forge they are starting to build up 
>>> free curriculum lesson plans / resources etc, which need to be promoted 
>>> along side free software, so openoffice + lesson plan + schemes of work 
>>> etc etc all as one package, from various sources, but 1 document or web 
>>> page to link them together.
>>>     
>>> Perhaps at a future event someone can go through how to edit the lug 
>>> wiki and as a group we can start putting our resources on the actual 
>>> wiki, i have done some stuff, but really need help putting more 
>>> resources on to it.
>>>     
>>> In the mean time, just get the word out there, kids love stickers, so 
>>> perhaps send for some ubuntu stickers for your daughter to give out at 
>>> school <£2 for 40 would be a good investment, or stick these to school 
>>> folders, books they write in (if they are allowed to decorate), etc. oh 
>>> and penguin stickers. too.
>>> Paul
>>>     
>>
>> I work at a school and have tried to educate the ICT department to the 
>> alternatives to windows
>> Everyone likes the idea, indeed many are well aware of one or two alternatives, 
>> but any course
>> work has to be submitted in a format that adjudicators can decipher, what is 
>> really needed is 
>> a Linux Based Curriculum course! Change for education needs to come from the top, 
>> change for 
>> council and government also needs to come from the top but while those at the top 
>> remain uneducated 
>> they will continue to spend taxpayers money lining Mr Gates pockets! 
>>
>> Rant over
>> Charlie 
>>
>>
>>   
> hmm, perhaps having just one computer in a corridor or classsroom 
> installed with gnu linux can facilitate the demoing of a Linux, after 
> all we are meant to be teaching kids IT not Microsoft,  so they should 
> be aware of a) different operating system and b) different licensing 
> models.  As long as if its connected to the net the contact can be 
> filtered, if this is not possible then have it as stand alone. 
> 
> I think people have the right to know there are other OS's out there,  
> you never know having this computer may prompt some of the children to 
> come forward, and ask why more of the school computers can't run Linux,  
> you could then perhaps advise that their parents as local councillors why, 
> 
> Put local government in the awkward position of justifying proprietary 
> (sorry can't spell it) over open source / free software.  If you have 
> one or two childen on your side, they can convert their peers. 
> 
> Paul 
> 
> Paul 
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.....she does love stickers. She also said she'd put some on her folder and 
give one to her teacher. Where do I get said stickers BTW? Can I gat some 
from the ubuntu site?
jon 


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