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On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Robin Cornelius <robin.cornelius@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Urrrg stupid google mail internet---router---network | | ipsec box----------ipsec network----------wireless AP . . . . . . . . . ipsec enabled wireless laptop Or something like that but it all gets a little complex but does offer good security Robin -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html