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Hi I am not sure I have the terminology correct here, but I used to be able to do away with the GUI and into one of a number of "terminals" by pressing (I think) Ctrl, Alt, F2 to F10? This was use full when things get a bit screwed up as one can quite elegantly shutdown. But I do not seem able to do it any longer? I am using Ubuntu, can anyone suggest what the key sequence is? All the best Peter L-J -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html