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On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 1:11 PM, Dave Berkeley <dcglug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Tuesday 18 March 2008 12:43:00 Simon Waters wrote: > > Dave Berkeley wrote: > > > I'm all Ubuntu these days (3 laptops and 2 desktops). It is easy to > > > install and set up, and life is too short to be worrying about things > > > that have changed since the last install. The only problem I've had was > > > during an update that broke my WiFi link. I had to plug into a wired > > > network to fix it. > > > > I think this is a key point. > > > > Ubuntu may release more often, but they also create a lot more breakage. > > I'm guessing most folks don't care about the odd bit of breakage, > > especially when a million other folk have the same problem the fix is > > usually quite quick. Heck I run Debian unstable and the breakage (such > > as it is) isn't really much of an issue (MS Windows is worse than > > unstable). > > For the record the problem was with non-open drivers. The WiFi support has > worked better in Ubuntu than other distributions I've tried - but that is > perhaps because things have improved a lot in the last couple of years, and > I've not looked at much else recently - so any improvements seems to be down > to Ubuntu. WiFi used to be a nightmare. > I think a vast majory of this work thats been done at the kernel level and the total rewrite of the linux ieee80211 subsystem and all wireless divers which is now filtering through into the stable distros. I agree wireless was truly terrible not long ago and so much has changed. Network manager has improved things too and seems to be pretty common on different distros. May be ubuntu were pulling some of the newer kernels or patching the older kernels with newer features though to achieve this earlier? Robin -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html